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Speaking the language of Apple v. Samsung

Apple's lawsuit against Samsung hinges on whether Samsung violated Apple's patents. But technology may be the least of it.

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Kai Ryssdal: A high-stakes and high-tech game of 'Did TOO! Did NOT!' got going today in federal court in San Jose. Apple is suing Samsung for $2.5 billion for -- Apple says -- stealing the designs for the iPad and iPhone. Samsung, in turn, says Apple stole its design from somebody else to begin with.

As for the technology at the heart of this whole thing? Marketplace's Queena Kim explains that might not really matter at all.


Queena Kim: Paulette Taylor has been a jury consultant on patent lawsuits for about 20 years. She says for jurors when you’re called to a patent case:

Paulette Taylor: It’s like being set down in the middle of foreign land where you don’t speak the language and you have no ideas what the customs are.

And so, she says, the lawyer becomes the jury’s guide to this strange place. In the case of Apple versus Samsung, I’ll quote from Apple’s “pre-trial brief” here, the jury must decide whether Samsung violated “Apple’s D’677 and D’087 iPhone design patents and D’889 tablet design patent.” Translation: Did Samsung copy the rectangular shape, rounded corners and the button at the bottom of the iPhone.

Robin Feldman is professor at U.C. Hastings. She says neither Apple nor Samsung can rely on the jury to understand the intricacies of the technology. What the lawyers need is a gripping narrative.

Robin Feldman: I think if you see really fine trial lawyers their skill is the ability to tell a story.

Jerry Ivey is a trial attorney at Finnegan in Washington, D.C. Ivey defended an elevator company accused of a faulty electrical system that made its elevators free-fall. Instead of trying to explain complicated electrical blueprints and circuitry to jurors, Ivey put an elevator repairman on the stand.

Jerry Ivey: And I would say, what did you do when you were told the elevator had free fallin’ into the basement? He said we hoisted back up to the top floor and I rode on top of it without the safety devices.

He won the case by making it all about the elevator repairman and why would he risk his life by riding on top of the elevator if he thought it was faulty? Lawyers says jurors in the Apple/Samsung case will be looking for a story to hook onto and it may have very little to do with understanding the technology. Or should I say: 'shows a motivation to combine techniques used in application management systems with browser applications on portable electronic devices.'

I’m Queena Kim for Marketplace.

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Queena Kim covers technology for Marketplace. She lives in the Bay Area.
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jader3rd - Jul 31, 2012

Queena, this lawsuit isn't about technology at all; it's about design patents. No technology is being argued in these cases. Personally, I find it really sad that court cases are decided off of story and emotional attachment instead of reasoning.

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Queena Kim - Jul 31, 2012

Hey jader3rd - yeah i did a segment about the design patent aspect of the case for the morning report (link is below).

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/samsung-faces-apple-court-today

Also, I hear you, the main claim - apple's - is design based but the case isn't devoid of technology. Samsung's counter-claim does have a tech aspect, which is where that the jargon at the end of the story comes from.
 
And yes, it was an eye opener that so much of it is about the story and not necessarily the technology.
 
thanks for commeting! 

 

 

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Chof - Jul 31, 2012

I doubt that if Apple wins Samsung is going to pull their "copy-cat" products so either Samsung loses and continue to dominate with new models that might (and probably will) look better while Apple continues to be old, traditional and boring with it's design...

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Queena Kim - Jul 31, 2012

Hey Chof -- It appears that if Apple wins they're going to ask the courts for an injunction on the products, in which case Samsung will have to comply. But yes, the smart thing would be to think ahead but I guess it's not that easy?