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Foreign-worker visa program under fire

Passports and visas

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Kai Ryssdal: This is a big day in the U.S. labor market. Not in absolute terms. But certainly in political circles. Today's the day the government starts accepting applications for H1-B visas. There are just 85,000 of them to go around to what are called highly skilled foreign workers. The technology industry expects demand to widely outstrip supply. Even in the face of a weak economy and rising unemployment. Marketplace's Steve Henn explains.


STEVE HENN: Companies that hire highly educated, foreigner-born workers argue the H1-B visa program is one of the best ways to get this country's economy moving.

DEAN GARFIELD: American universities are educating the best minds, and it's critical that those minds stay in the United States.

Dean Garfield heads the Information Technology Industry Council. He says new industries like Health IT need innovators. Robert Hoffman at Oracle says foreign-born students dominate U.S. high-tech graduate programs.

ROBERT HOFFMAN: Roughly 70 percent of Ph.D. graduates in electrical engineering are foreign born.

But in the past few months companies that depend on H1-B visas have become lighting rods.

SEN. CHARLES GRASSLEY: Some of these companies are nothing but pimps.

Republican Sen. Charles Grassley says if companies can't find Americans to do a job, then it makes sense to hire from abroad. But he's convinced some firms abuse H1-B visas to lay off Americans and hire cheap foreign workers. And Grassley just co-sponsored a bill that put new restrictions on H1-B visas for bailed-out banks.

SEN. GRASSLEY: Don't tell me that when the banks are laying off tens of thousands of people that other banks that want to hire people, that they can't find qualified people out of the people who have been laid off.

Grassley writing another bill aimed at preventing fraud. But some in the tech business worry it could make the process of applying for these visas expensive and unworkable. That, they say, would push some talented U.S. graduates overseas.

People like Mexican Milton Esteva. He just earned a doctorate in mechanical engineering from Rice University on...

MILTON ESTEVA: Trying to find a numerical model to predict the mechanical and thermal properties of nano composites.

His research might make accidents at oil rigs less common. That could save his employer, BP America some money.

ESTEVA: But the most important thing is safety.

But if Esteva doesn't get a visa this year he's not too worried. His American education means jobs are waiting all over the globe.

In Washington, I'm Steve Henn for Marketplace.

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ken sig - Apr 6, 2011

We need real best and bright. But H1b visa allows fake worker as best and bright and created lots of pimps who manupulate the paper work.

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aileen cailey - Mar 23, 2011

how can we list of these greedy companies who keep paying their ceo's more and their workers less AMERICA FIRST AND AMERICAN WORKERS They got us here with their blood and sweat

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John Doe - Oct 3, 2009

Senator Grassley is correct. I work at a bank that took stimulus money. The the rate of visa workers is estimated to be 9 to 1 natural born US citizens that is employed there. Meanwhile local technology talent languishes as unemployed. Having worked for the "staffing companies" I can say the his use of the term Pimp is spot on.

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Michael Carpenter - Jul 9, 2009

Question My foreign owned company is laying off the American Employees and then replacing them with employees from the parent company because they are slow as well. Can you really ship someone here on a work visa to replace an American with someone from your country just because?

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deubg curz - May 24, 2009

Instead of blaming American education for not preparing students properly, and for not encouraging minorities and women to enter the engineering field, why not look at the real reason students no longer want to enter this field—no job prospects. With American engineers and computer programmers no longer able to compete against a huge influx of cheaper imported labor via H-1B and L-1 work visas, and with many more high-tech jobs going "offshore," it's simple economics. Students do not want to invest many thousands of dollars studying in a field for which there are no job prospects.

Me and my IT colleagues lost our programming jobs when our company imported programmers and made the Americans train them in order to receive severance. The company posted LCA sheets as required by law, and thus, we learned that the visiting programmers are earning about half of their American counterparts. Whenever I contact my elected representatives, the Dept. of Labor and the Dept. of Commerce about this, their shoddy excuse is that Americans aren't educated enough or prepared enough or smart enough to do high tech. But I'm not surprised. That's what the corporations and the media tell them.

Myths:
1) These are Temporary (Guest) Worker Visas and NOT IMMIGRANT VISAS
2) They are paid the same wage as Americans, they are paid about 12,000 or more less
than their American counterparts
3) They are just average programmers and in fact some of them are incompetent
4) There is no labor shortage with millions of highly skilled Americans and Permanent Residents unemployed.
Hire local it's the American thing to do.

Greedy Companies use them to replace Americans with:

1) Cheap Foreign workers - These companies don't want to pay the prevailing wage.
2) Younger Foreign Workers - Those over 35 are discriminated because of their age.

Hire Americans and Permanent Residents. Help America.
Yet another sellout of the American worker, just so a few executives can make a few more million.

Hiring or continuing to employ an H1B worker (or any other VISA) in the US in our current time of crisis is un-American.

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BruceJ - Dec 15, 2011

I would like to talk to you about this. I'm am looking for file a major class-action suit in Ca. (with it's 11.5% unemployment.)

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BruceJ - Dec 15, 2011

contact (only for this issue) caclassaction (at) yahoo.com

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Non-Reciprocal ... - Apr 13, 2009

I participated in a Japanese government sponsored program to encourage international exchange at the university level.

Shortly after beginning the program, I found that most participants had no Japanese ability whatsoever.

The instructors at foreign student language program center were just amazed that I could read the newspaper (I had lived in Japan, and studied on my own for several years before applying for the program). And they discouraged my aspirations to perfect my writing ability by not offering classes (at the graduate level), and be telling me that it wasn't really necessary for me to write in Japanese. It would be fine if I wrote in English.

Turns out they are trying to expose the Japanese university community to native English speakers under the guise of educational exchange.

Information flow one way, out of US into Japan.

By the way, most people, especially those with limited overseas experience are oblivious to the fact that they are being used and discarded.

How about job hunting in Japan? Prospects are often limited to teaching English...or entertainment.

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A E - Apr 5, 2009

My husband worked for a big tech company - 3/4 of the workers were from Australia, France, Canada, Germany, etc... when there were so many Americans applying for the jobs. Also in my field of health care there are massive numbers of visa workers who take over entire units and make it difficult for an American worker to be effective/integrated on American soil. When they had my husband on 7 days a week mandatory for a month (12-16 hour days) he and the other Americans and the foreign workers could not complain or have enough traction to stop it. When I lived in Europe in my twenties - I tried to volunteer at a hospital and that government had to advertise the volunteer position nationally for 1 month before I could even work for free for them!! This is non-sense that the US has not made healthy boundaries for its citizens - only profitable horizons for its corporations.

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A E - Apr 5, 2009

My husband worked for a big tech company - 3/4 of the workers were from Australia, France, Canada, Germany, etc... when there were so many Americans applying for the jobs. Also in my field of health care there are massive numbers of visa workers who take over entire units and make it difficult for an American worker to be effective/integrated on American soil. When the had my husband on 7 days a week mandatory for a month (12-16 hour days) he and the other Americans and the foreign workers could not complain or have enough traction to stop it. When I lived in Europe in my twenties - I tried to volunteer at a hospital and the had to advertise the volunteer position nationally for 1 month before I could even work for free for them!! This is non-sense that the US has not made healthy boundaries for its citizens - only profitable horizons for corporations.

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