A Q&A with David Brancaccio on “Hoop Dreams”
Our March documentary selection follows two promising young ball players in Chicago through high school, from 1987 to 1991, trying to earn scholarships to attend college, dreaming of going pro. The Econ Extra Credit team sat down with David Brancaccio this week to ask him what he thought of “Hoop Dreams.”
Watching the documentary, what were some of the things that struck you?
David Brancaccio: In the film we see William Gates and Arthur Agee being excellent at their sport. But if chances of success are low, is it ethical, is it rational from an economic point of view to raise people’s expectations, to raise the expectations of families, to pursue something like this?
The flip side is if you look at, statistically, the careers that barriers to entry are lower, that pay decently, they may not be for you. For me, it always shows up to be petroleum engineer — that’s what I should have been. I would have been a terrible petroleum engineer, even though it pays well, even though there are opportunities. That’s just not my passion.
Hate to say it, but this notion of “I want to grow up to be a public radio host,” that’s irrational, but it was a dream that I had. However, I didn’t have to put all my eggs in one basket. Because the athletes that you see in the film have to dedicate so much of their energy and their time to being excellent in their athletic field, it robs from their ability to become more well-rounded students. I’ve been looking for economic research that probes this notion. How do we think in a rigorous way about balancing what you have passion for with what the job market might dictate?
There are many parallels between the two players, but there is a significant difference when it comes to money and support available to each. This affects the young men’s respective abilities to progress. What did you think about that?
Brancaccio: There are these commonalities. They both get into the first school, but it doesn’t work out for one of the players. He has to leave to go back to a more local public school. But he still — the family still owes money to the private school. So that’s one of the takeaways from this film: Debt can be a trap in different ways. The private school, the private Catholic school, wants the $1,800 from the Agee family, owed for the short-lived private school career. They hold up his grade transcript until the debt is paid. That $1,800 [about $3,500 today, adjusted for inflation] is something very hard to come by for that parent.
The other real difference between the two ball players that are front and center in this movie is that William Gates has a person on the outside who has taken interest in his case. And she provides grants at crucial moments to that one player that the other player doesn’t have.
And then there’s the issue of insurance?
Brancaccio: Right. One of the players has to have arthroscopic surgery twice. And also has to have fancy rehab, at a rehab place that is apparently used by the Chicago Bulls. So where’s the money coming from? There’s a brief reference in the film that the Catholic school with the noted high school basketball program has special insurance, and that plan paid for what must have been these very expensive surgeries.
What is it for the typical high school student? Do parents have to pay for extra health insurance? And is that another barrier to entry for would-be pro athletes who are trying to make a name for themselves at the high school level?
At that time, you didn’t have to have insurance, right? Now you have to have insurance.
Brancaccio: We’ve noticed a marked decline in participation in team sports since “Hoop Dreams” came out. Some of it is the renewed attention to the lifelong injuries that can occur in football. You also wonder if another thing that’s dissuading some people from participating is the potential for having to deal with medical issues for the rest of your life. The players are getting wealthier, they’re coming from wealthier households for some of these reasons we’ve been talking about.
Did you expect to walk away with so much to think about?
Brancaccio: This film is two hours and 53 minutes long. And so you don’t graze the film, you immerse yourself in it; I watched it over a series of nights. You really get to know the families. You may have come for the sports, but what you’re left with is an unforgettable experience understanding what people are up against who are trying to succeed — as people, as family members, as sports heroes — also, they’re trying to get through high school, they’re trying to get into a decent college. And there’s so many structural things that are sitting there as obstacles, waiting to trip people up as they’re trying to do the right thing.
What do you think “Hoop Dreams” tells us about America?
Brancaccio: Statistics show we are not nearly as upwardly mobile as we think we are. The idea that you will be in a higher economic class than your parents is in great question in modern America. Watching this film, ostensibly about sports competition, teaches you almost more about obstacles to social and economic mobility. They say this may be the greatest documentary ever made. I’m not going to argue, having seen it; it’s certainly one of greatest documentaries I’ve ever seen.
“Hoop Dreams” is available through several free and subscription-based streaming services.
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