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The gun shop: A place to chat and shoot, as well as arm

Blue Ridge Arsenal in Chantilly, Va.

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One of the first things Congress is going to have to do when it starts debating an assault weapons ban is define "assault weapons." The National Rifle Association and a lot of gun owners say gun-control advocates and journalists misuse the term -- in fact, that they don't know anything about guns.

And it kind of stands to reason, if you don't own one -- or shoot one -- why would you know much about guns? It's not like people just hang out in gun stores if they don't shoot. Right?

On Tuesday, I drove to Chantilly, Va., 45 minutes west of Washington D.C., to Blue Ridge Arsenal. It's a gun store with an indoor target range, in an industrial park, two or three miles from Dulles International Airport.

"It's a pretty nice place, actually," says Mark Warner. He's the manager, and he seems to know everybody.

Warner has worked here full-time since 2004. He has a culinary degree, but his first job was as a security guard. Warner taught gun training classes.

While I wait for him, I look at the knives and handguns in glass display cases. Rifles and shotguns hang on the wall. There are maybe a dozen customers. Some of them are shopping. Others are waiting for a chance to shoot.

"While they're waiting, they love to chit-chat about, you know, current events and, you know, politics and all that stuff," says Warner. "And just general gun chatter."

We make our way past a leather couch to a table -- the kind you'd find at a sports bar. Warner tells me it's "law enforcement and military day." They get a discount: 10 percent off ammo and accessories. But there are all kinds of people here.

"We've had bachelorette parties, bachelor parties," Warner says. "I've got a grandmother who comes in with her grandson, who is 6'5". And they come here, with a smile on their face. And they leave with a bigger smile on their face, because they enjoy the camaraderie of shooting. Hitting that bull's eye."

A middle-aged man comes in, to pick up a rifle. One of the four clerks does a background check. He calls Richmond, the state capital; gets an authorization number; the buyer signs some paperwork; and in 15, maybe 20 minutes, he's out the door.

Warner tells me he follows the letter of the law, and he won't sell a gun to just anybody.

"It's my choice to sell a gun to a certain person if I choose to," Warner says. "And I've had several people who have given me the eerie feeling to a point where we've actually called local stores and said, 'Hey, this person gave me this feeling,' or whatever. 'We didn't sell them a gun. Keep a heads up for them.'"

Warner waves over a guy in sweat pants who has been admiring the rifles. Paul Kunz says he is looking for a 1911 .45 ACP and a semi-automatic .30-06. Warner doesn't have either of them.

Kunz is 63 years old, and he says he shot a gun for the first time more than 50 years ago, at summer camp. It was a .22.

"That was my first introduction," Kunz says. "Classes on safety. Not to fear them, but to recognize them and respect them."

Kunz has been going to Blue Ridge Arsenal since it opened, in 1989, and he is what you might call a Second Amendment absolutist. He shows me his NRA membership card.

"I mean, if you attack one bullet, if you attack one gun, you're attacking everything," Kunz says.

Inside the range, everyone is required to wear safety glasses and ear protection. There's a woman, learning how to shoot, and a man, firing a semi-automatic pistol. Another guy unpacks an AR-15. Five minutes later, he lies on the ground.

It is louder than I expected. Bullet casings fly back at me.

Variants of this gun were illegal for a decade, when the Assault Weapons Ban was in place. Back in the shop, Mark Warner tells me that today, he can't keep them in stock. Fifty people are on the waiting list.

Warner just got back from a big gun show in Las Vegas. The mood there, he says, was "sad." There weren't the usual deep discounts for dealers, and manufacturers said they wouldn't have firearms like that AR-15 for months, maybe a year.

About the author

David Gura is a reporter for Marketplace, based in the Washington, D.C. bureau.
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newsky2013 - Jan 29, 2013

Variants of this gun were illegal for a decade, when the Assault Weapons Ban was in place. Back in the shop, Mark Warner tells me that today, he can't keep them in stock. Fifty people are on the waiting list.
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BusyPoorDad - Jan 28, 2013

Ok, after this report, what is the answer? What is an "assault rifle"? Did that get edited out? Or was the question never asked?

Forget that semi-automatic firearms are 80% of all sold, forget that the .223 caliber is a common hunting round. Forget that gun haters really just want to see all guns taken from the hands of citizens, as they only belong in the hands of government employees.

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FreeRoy - Jan 25, 2013

Oh, come on, guys! I have to agree with Random Dude on this. This piece was hyped all day long on NPR . . . and THIS is all we get?
I'm always glad to hear anything remotely like objective coverage on firearms on NPR or any of its affiliates, but seriously, guys, this piece was so shallow that it was just a waste of air-time, and ear-time.
"We went to a gun shop/range. There were people buying guns. The owner said that he obeyed the spirit and the letter of the laws. A guy shoots an AR-15. BANG! We left."
You have done far, far better in the past, on many subjects. I wish that you had lived up to your usual standards with this one.

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uniongoons - Jan 25, 2013

David Gura says:

"One of the first things Congress is going to have to do when it starts debating an assault weapons ban is define "assault weapons.""

David, there is not going to be any debate in Congress on assault weapons. It is not even going to come up to vote on, I bet.

You could not pass gun control in the democrat-controlled senate, let alone the house. You guys here and at NPR should fold up your tents and go home, there is not going to be any restrictive gun control.

Now, how is it that a regular guy who is not part of the media know this, and you guys don't?

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Random Dude - Jan 25, 2013

"...gun-control advocates and journalists misuse the term -- in fact, that they don't know anything about guns. And it kind of stands to reason, if you don't own one -- or shoot one -- why would you know much about guns?"

So you go to a range, looks at guns, and make small talk, but don't bother trying any firearms, and don't bother asking advice, or even for clarification on "assault weapon". That's an awful lot of work for ignoring what you went there for. We've gained nothing we didn't know before this article. Way to "educate" people. :(

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RichardNYC - Jan 25, 2013

"I mean, if you attack one bullet, if you attack one gun, you're attacking everything." How can you deal with that sort of reasoning?