If you’ve been keeping score in the seemingly endless National Security Agency surveillance leaks, the media keeps getting scoops, European leaders are not happy, and the Obama administration is scrambling. This week, much of the talk is about culling phone data in Spain and whether President Obama knew about the NSA spying on the cell phone of Germany’s Chancellor Angela Merkel.

But what about our online devices? We’re at the end of Cyber Security Awareness Month, and Marketplace Tech host Ben Johnson talks to Chester Wisniewski of the cyber security firm Sophos.