An appeals court in California has ruled it is illegal in the state to use a handheld mobile phone to navigate while driving. Given that it is legal to manipulate other devices in a car, the court suggests that people should take it up with the legislature to change the law if the ruling seems arbitrary.

“The courts are trying to make a point that futzing with your phone in any capacity, using your hands, is not legal,” says Lindsey Turrentine, editor-in-chief of CNET reviews.

To hear more about the arguments for and against the new ruling, click on the audio player above.