Felix Salmon from Fusion and Jo Ling Kent from Fox Business sat down with Kai Ryssdal to recap the big events from this past week.

A major Portuguese bank is in trouble and while Kent believes the “U.S. market doesn’t seem to mind,” Salmon would argue, “ a big bank failure is always a problem.”

Plus, with dueling speakers at the Federal Reserve, Salmon believes we should listen to Ktochelekova. Why? Because: “he’s by far the most interesting guy,” at the Federal Reserve.

Listen to their full conversation in the audio player above.