There was a big fancy party in Washington DC this week: the ceremonial premiere of the fourth season of “House of Cards.” The new season will be available to stream on Netflix in a couple of weeks and will likely be the buzz around your office. What won’t be getting any buzz is what the show’s ratings are. In fact, the streaming service doesn’t reveal numbers for any of its offerings … to any of us.

Jason Mittell is Professor of Film and Media at Middlebury College in Vermont and wrote about Netflix and its mystery numbers in The Atlantic today.

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