");vwo_$('head').append(_vwo_sel);return vwo_$('head')[0] && vwo_$('head')[0].lastChild;})("HEAD")}}},rules:[{"triggers":["12639747"],"tags":[{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":16,"g":5}],"type":"g"},"metricId":0}]},{"triggers":["8536412"],"tags":[{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":48,"g":4}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959030},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":16,"g":4}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959030},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":54,"g":2}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959030},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":62,"g":2}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959030},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":63,"g":3}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959030},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":64,"g":3}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959030},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":61,"g":3}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959030},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":39,"g":1}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959030},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":55,"g":3}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959030}]},{"triggers":["8536409"],"tags":[{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":48,"g":5}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959027},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":16,"g":1}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959027},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":54,"g":4}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959027},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":62,"g":3}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959027},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":63,"g":4}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959027},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":64,"g":4}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959027},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":61,"g":4}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959027},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":39,"g":3}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959027},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":55,"g":4}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959027}]},{"triggers":["12454056"],"tags":[{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":39,"g":5}],"type":"g"},"metricId":0}]},{"triggers":["8459768"],"tags":[{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":48,"g":2}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951905},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":16,"g":2}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951905},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":54,"g":1}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951905},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":62,"g":5}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951905},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":63,"g":5}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951905},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":64,"g":5}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951905},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":61,"g":5}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951905},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":39,"g":4}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951905},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":55,"g":1}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951905}]},{"triggers":["12454062"],"tags":[{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":39,"g":7}],"type":"g"},"metricId":0}]},{"triggers":["8639604"],"tags":[{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":48,"g":1}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951908},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":16,"g":6}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951908},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":54,"g":5}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951908},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":62,"g":4}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951908},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":63,"g":1}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951908},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":64,"g":1}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951908},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":61,"g":1}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951908},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":55,"g":5}],"type":"m"},"metricId":951908}]},{"triggers":["12454059"],"tags":[{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":39,"g":6}],"type":"g"},"metricId":0}]},{"triggers":["8536415"],"tags":[{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":48,"g":3}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959033},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":16,"g":3}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959033},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":54,"g":3}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959033},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":62,"g":1}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959033},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":63,"g":2}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959033},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":64,"g":2}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959033},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":61,"g":2}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959033},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":39,"g":2}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959033},{"id":"metric","data":{"campaigns":[{"c":55,"g":2}],"type":"m"},"metricId":959033}]},{"triggers":["12454053"],"tags":[{"data":"campaigns.39","id":"runCampaign","priority":4}]},{"triggers":["10589191"],"tags":[{"data":"campaigns.48","id":"runCampaign","priority":4},{"data":"campaigns.16","id":"runCampaign","priority":4},{"data":"campaigns.54","id":"runCampaign","priority":4},{"data":"campaigns.62","id":"runCampaign","priority":4},{"data":"campaigns.63","id":"runCampaign","priority":4},{"data":"campaigns.64","id":"runCampaign","priority":4},{"data":"campaigns.61","id":"runCampaign","priority":4},{"data":"campaigns.55","id":"runCampaign","priority":4}]},{"triggers":["8"],"tags":[{"id":"prePostMutation","priority":3},{"id":"groupCampaigns","priority":2}]},{"triggers":["9"],"tags":[{"id":"visibilityService","priority":2}]},{"triggers":["2"],"tags":[{"id":"runTestCampaign"}]},{"triggers":["75"],"tags":[{"id":"urlChange"}]},{"triggers":["5"],"tags":[{"id":"checkEnvironment"}]}],pages:{"ec":[{"1625289":{"inc":["o",["url","urlReg","(?i).*"]]}}]},pagesEval:{"ec":[1625289]},stags:{}}})();
;;var commonWrapper=function(argument){if(!argument){argument={valuesGetter:function(){return{}},valuesSetter:function(){},verifyData:function(){return{}}}}const getVisitorUuid=function(){if(window._vwo_acc_id>=1037725){return window.VWO&&window.VWO.get("visitor.id")}else{return window.VWO._&&window.VWO._.cookies&&window.VWO._.cookies.get("_vwo_uuid")}};var pollInterval=100;var timeout=6e4;return function(){var accountIntegrationSettings={};var _interval=null;function waitForAnalyticsVariables(){try{accountIntegrationSettings=argument.valuesGetter();accountIntegrationSettings.visitorUuid=getVisitorUuid()}catch(error){accountIntegrationSettings=undefined}if(accountIntegrationSettings&&argument.verifyData(accountIntegrationSettings)){argument.valuesSetter(accountIntegrationSettings);return 1}return 0}var currentTime=0;_interval=setInterval((function(){currentTime=currentTime||performance.now();var result=waitForAnalyticsVariables();if(result||performance.now()-currentTime>=timeout){clearInterval(_interval)}}),pollInterval)}};
var pushBasedCommonWrapper=function(argument){var firedCamp={};if(!argument){argument={integrationName:"",getExperimentList:function(){},accountSettings:function(){},pushData:function(){}}}return function(){window.VWO=window.VWO||[];const getVisitorUuid=function(){if(window._vwo_acc_id>=1037725){return window.VWO&&window.VWO.get("visitor.id")}else{return window.VWO._&&window.VWO._.cookies&&window.VWO._.cookies.get("_vwo_uuid")}};var sendDebugLogsOld=function(expId,variationId,errorType,user_type,data){try{var errorPayload={f:argument["integrationName"]||"",a:window._vwo_acc_id,url:window.location.href,exp:expId,v:variationId,vwo_uuid:getVisitorUuid(),user_type:user_type};if(errorType=="initIntegrationCallback"){errorPayload["log_type"]="initIntegrationCallback";errorPayload["data"]=JSON.stringify(data||"")}else if(errorType=="timeout"){errorPayload["timeout"]=true}if(window.VWO._.customError){window.VWO._.customError({msg:"integration debug",url:window.location.href,lineno:"",colno:"",source:JSON.stringify(errorPayload)})}}catch(e){window.VWO._.customError&&window.VWO._.customError({msg:"integration debug failed",url:"",lineno:"",colno:"",source:""})}};var sendDebugLogs=function(expId,variationId,errorType,user_type){var eventName="vwo_debugLogs";var eventPayload={};try{eventPayload={intName:argument["integrationName"]||"",varId:variationId,expId:expId,type:errorType,vwo_uuid:getVisitorUuid(),user_type:user_type};if(window.VWO._.event){window.VWO._.event(eventName,eventPayload,{enableLogs:1})}}catch(e){eventPayload={msg:"integration event log failed",url:window.location.href};window.VWO._.event&&window.VWO._.event(eventName,eventPayload)}};const callbackFn=function(data){if(!data)return;var expId=data[1],variationId=data[2],repeated=data[0],singleCall=0,debug=0;var experimentList=argument.getExperimentList();var integrationName=argument["integrationName"]||"vwo";if(typeof argument.accountSettings==="function"){var accountSettings=argument.accountSettings();if(accountSettings){singleCall=accountSettings["singleCall"];debug=accountSettings["debug"]}}if(debug){sendDebugLogs(expId,variationId,"intCallTriggered",repeated)}if(singleCall&&(repeated==="vS"||repeated==="vSS")||firedCamp[expId]){return}window.expList=window.expList||{};var expList=window.expList[integrationName]=window.expList[integrationName]||[];if(expId&&variationId&&["VISUAL_AB","VISUAL","SPLIT_URL"].indexOf(_vwo_exp[expId].type)>-1){if(experimentList.indexOf(+expId)!==-1){firedCamp[expId]=variationId;var visitorUuid=getVisitorUuid();var pollInterval=100;var currentTime=0;var timeout=6e4;var user_type=_vwo_exp[expId].exec?"vwo-retry":"vwo-new";var interval=setInterval((function(){if(expList.indexOf(expId)!==-1){clearInterval(interval);return}currentTime=currentTime||performance.now();var toClearInterval=argument.pushData(expId,variationId,visitorUuid);if(debug&&toClearInterval){sendDebugLogsOld(expId,variationId,"",user_type);sendDebugLogs(expId,variationId,"intDataPushed",user_type)}var isTimeout=performance.now()-currentTime>=timeout;if(isTimeout&&debug){sendDebugLogsOld(expId,variationId,"timeout",user_type);sendDebugLogs(expId,variationId,"intTimeout",user_type)}if(toClearInterval||isTimeout){clearInterval(interval)}if(toClearInterval){window.expList[integrationName].push(expId)}}),pollInterval||100)}}};window.VWO.push(["onVariationApplied",callbackFn]);window.VWO.push(["onVariationShownSent",callbackFn])}};
var surveyDataCommonWrapper=function(argument){if(!argument){argument={getCampaignList:function(){return[]},surveyStatusChange:function(){},answerSubmitted:function(){}}}return function(){window.VWO=window.VWO||[];function getValuesFromAnswers(answers){var values=[];for(var i=0;i=timeout;if(toClearInterval||isTimeout){clearInterval(interval)}}),pollInterval)}}window.VWO.push(["onSurveyShown",function(data){commonSurveyCallback(data,argument.surveyStatusChange,"surveyShown")}]);window.VWO.push(["onSurveyCompleted",function(data){commonSurveyCallback(data,argument.surveyStatusChange,"surveyCompleted")}]);window.VWO.push(["onSurveyAnswerSubmitted",function(data){commonSurveyCallback(data,argument.answerSubmitted,"surveySubmitted")}])}};
(function(){var VWOOmniTemp={};window.VWOOmni=window.VWOOmni||{};for(var key in VWOOmniTemp)Object.prototype.hasOwnProperty.call(VWOOmniTemp,key)&&(window.VWOOmni[key]=VWOOmniTemp[key]);;})();(function(){window.VWO=window.VWO||[];var pollInterval=100;var _vis_data={};var intervalObj={};var analyticsTimerObj={};var experimentListObj={};window.VWO.push(["onVariationApplied",function(data){if(!data){return}var expId=data[1],variationId=data[2];if(expId&&variationId&&["VISUAL_AB","VISUAL","SPLIT_URL"].indexOf(window._vwo_exp[expId].type)>-1){}}])})();;
;var vD=VWO.data||{};VWO.data={content:{"fns":{"list":{"args":{"1":{}},"vn":1}}},as:"r4.visualwebsiteoptimizer.com",dacdnUrl:"https://dev.visualwebsiteoptimizer.com",accountJSInfo:{"pc":{"a":0,"t":0},"rp":30,"ts":1743773411,"noSS":false}};for(var k in vD){VWO.data[k]=vD[k]};;var gcpfb=function(a,loadFunc,status,err,success){function vwoErr() {_vwo_err({message:"Google_Cdn failing for " + a + ". Trying Fallback..",code:"cloudcdnerr",status:status});} if(a.indexOf("/cdn/")!==-1){loadFunc(a.replace("cdn/",""),err,success); vwoErr(); return true;} else if(a.indexOf("/dcdn/")!==-1&&a.indexOf("evad.js") !== -1){loadFunc(a.replace("dcdn/",""),err,success); vwoErr(); return true;}};window.VWO=window.VWO || [];window.VWO._= window.VWO._ || {};window.VWO._.gcpfb=gcpfb;;var d={cookie:document.cookie,URL:document.URL,referrer:document.referrer};var w={VWO:{_:{}},location:{href:window.location.href,search:window.location.search},_vwoCc:window._vwoCc};;window._vwo_cdn="https://dev.visualwebsiteoptimizer.com/cdn/";window._vwo_apm_debug_cdn="https://dev.visualwebsiteoptimizer.com/cdn/";window.VWO._.useCdn=true;window.vwo_eT="br";window._VWO=window._VWO||{};window._VWO.fSeg={};window._VWO.dcdnUrl="/dcdn/settings.js";window.VWO.sTs=1743694821;window._VWO._vis_nc_lib=window._vwo_cdn+"edrv/nc-e76f33e8accfa6859749db0f9a4d4230br.js";var loadWorker=function(url){_vwo_code.load(url, { dSC: true, onloadCb: function(xhr,a){window._vwo_wt_l=true;if(xhr.status===200 ||xhr.status===304){var code="var window="+JSON.stringify(w)+",document="+JSON.stringify(d)+";window.document=document;"+xhr.responseText;var blob=new Blob([code||"throw new Error('code not found!');"],{type:"application/javascript"}),url=URL.createObjectURL(blob);window.mainThread={webWorker:new Worker(url)};window.vwoChannelFW=new MessageChannel();window.vwoChannelToW=new MessageChannel();window.mainThread.webWorker.postMessage({vwoChannelToW:vwoChannelToW.port1,vwoChannelFW:vwoChannelFW.port2},[vwoChannelToW.port1, vwoChannelFW.port2]);if(!window._vwo_mt_f)return window._vwo_wt_f=true;_vwo_code.addScript({text:window._vwo_mt_f});delete window._vwo_mt_f}else{if(gcpfb(a,loadWorker,xhr.status)){return;}_vwo_code.finish("&e=loading_failure:"+a)}}, onerrorCb: function(a){if(gcpfb(a,loadWorker)){return;}window._vwo_wt_l=true;_vwo_code.finish("&e=loading_failure:"+a);}})};loadWorker("https://dev.visualwebsiteoptimizer.com/cdn/edrv/worker-1135852b6bc11a94eb64017a8d120ad8br.js");;var _vis_opt_file;var _vis_opt_lib;if(window.VWO._.allSettings.dataStore.previewExtraSettings!=undefined&&window.VWO._.allSettings.dataStore.previewExtraSettings.isSurveyPreviewMode){var surveyHash=window.VWO._.allSettings.dataStore.plugins.LIBINFO.SURVEY_DEBUG_EVENTS.HASH;var param1="evad.js?va=";var param2="&d=debugger_new";var param3="&sp=1&a=940895&sh="+surveyHash;_vis_opt_file=vwoCode.use_existing_jquery&&typeof vwoCode.use_existing_jquery()!=="undefined"?vwoCode.use_existing_jquery()?param1+"vanj"+param2:param1+"va_gq"+param2:param1+"edrv/va_gq-a062e7c4223b2b89f5cddb5055816677br.js"+param2;_vis_opt_file=_vis_opt_file+param3;_vis_opt_lib="https://dev.visualwebsiteoptimizer.com/dcdn/"+_vis_opt_file}else if(window.VWO._.allSettings.dataStore.mode!=undefined&&window.VWO._.allSettings.dataStore.mode=="PREVIEW"){ var path1 = 'edrv/pd_'; var path2 = window.VWO._.allSettings.dataStore.plugins.LIBINFO.EVAD.HASH + ".js"; ;_vis_opt_file=vwoCode.use_existing_jquery&&typeof vwoCode.use_existing_jquery()!=="undefined"?vwoCode.use_existing_jquery()?path1+"vanj"+path2:path1+"va_gq"+path2:path1+"edrv/va_gq-a062e7c4223b2b89f5cddb5055816677br.js"+path2;_vis_opt_lib="https://dev.visualwebsiteoptimizer.com/cdn/"+_vis_opt_file}else{_vis_opt_file=vwoCode.use_existing_jquery&&typeof vwoCode.use_existing_jquery()!=="undefined"?vwoCode.use_existing_jquery()?"edrv/vanj-55389bda300ad24b514d62f335aa126abr.js":"edrv/va_gq-a062e7c4223b2b89f5cddb5055816677br.js":"edrv/va_gq-a062e7c4223b2b89f5cddb5055816677br.js"}window._vwo_library_timer=setTimeout((function(){vwoCode.removeLoaderAndOverlay&&vwoCode.removeLoaderAndOverlay();vwoCode.finish()}),vwoCode.library_tolerance&&typeof vwoCode.library_tolerance()!=="undefined"?vwoCode.library_tolerance():2500),_vis_opt_lib=typeof _vis_opt_lib=="undefined"?window._vwo_cdn+_vis_opt_file:_vis_opt_lib;var loadLib=function(url){_vwo_code.load(url, { dSC: true, onloadCb:function(xhr,a){window._vwo_mt_l=true;if(xhr.status===200 || xhr.status===304){if(!window._vwo_wt_f)return window._vwo_mt_f=xhr.responseText;_vwo_code.addScript({text:xhr.responseText});delete window._vwo_wt_f;}else{if(gcpfb(a,loadLib,xhr.status)){return;}_vwo_code.finish("&e=loading_failure:"+a);}}, onerrorCb: function(a){if(gcpfb(a,loadLib)){return;}window._vwo_mt_l=true;_vwo_code.finish("&e=loading_failure:"+a);}})};loadLib(_vis_opt_lib);VWO.load_co=function(u,opts){return window._vwo_code.load(u,opts);};;;}}catch(e){_vwo_code.finish();_vwo_code.removeLoaderAndOverlay&&_vwo_code.removeLoaderAndOverlay();_vwo_err(e);window.VWO.caE=1}})();
Home Depot CEO cites “macroeconomic uncertainty” in earnings report
Heard on:
When consumers spend less because they’re concerned the economy might not do so well, that can cause the economy to not do so well.
Brandon Bell/Getty Images
Home Depot CEO cites “macroeconomic uncertainty” in earnings report
Heard on:
When consumers spend less because they’re concerned the economy might not do so well, that can cause the economy to not do so well.
Brandon Bell/Getty Images
If you eavesdropped on the Home Depot’s earnings call Tuesday morning, you heard a version of the word “uncertainty” at least seven times. That uncertainty is from consumers, and Home Depot expects it to affect sales for the rest of the year.
The company said that customers are deferring big renovation projects , both because interest rates make them expensive to finance and because consumers are feeling unsure about the economy as a whole. So, is this a Home Depot problem or an economy-at-large problem?
A lot of Home Depot shoppers are homeowners who’ve grown wealthier in the past few years because their home values have shot up. This earnings report shows that even they are worried, said Steven Zaccone, a research analyst at Citi.
“So it feels like you’re seeing more widespread weakness amongst the consumer,” he said. “I think that’s what’s really new within the last couple of months.”
And when consumers spend less because they’re concerned the economy might not do so well, that can actually cause the economy to not do so well.
“This loss of confidence can produce its own business cycle, and it’s not a good business cycle. And that’s what the Home Depot folks are talking about,” said Anirban Basu, chief economist for Associated Builders and Contractors.
Professional builders are feeling this too.
Shiloh Travis designs, builds and renovates houses in Austin, Texas — he spends a lot of money at Home Depot. In the past eight months, he’s had two clients postpone big projects indefinitely because of concern about interest rates. He’s also just seeing a kind of hesitancy in the market overall.
“I think that there is a general uneasiness about the future of life in general,” he said. And this makes him feel a bit uneasy as a business owner. “Like, I’m literally right now considering whether I’m going to have to downsize one of my staff,” he said.
For his part, Travis said when he was younger, he would have done what he’d had to do to bring in more work. But now that he’s approaching 50, he’s a little more hesitant to take risks. And that means he’s not sure if growing his business is the prudent thing to do.
There’s a lot happening in the world. Through it all, Marketplace is here for you.
You rely on Marketplace to break down the world’s events and tell you how it affects you in a fact-based, approachable way. We rely on your financial support to keep making that possible.
Your donation today powers the independent journalism that you rely on . For just $5/month, you can help sustain Marketplace so we can keep reporting on the things that matter to you.