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PODCAST: First comes hacking, then comes fraud

NBC news' branding problem, and how hacking could lead to tax fraud.

Truth, democracy, and the branding problem for NBC news without Brian Williams. Plus, first comes the hack, then comes the … tax fraud? That’s one of the worries coming out of investigations into two different events last week: A flood of phony tax filings sent using TurboTax, and a major hack of Anthem health insurance. 

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