There’s a new challenge to teacher tenure laws in New York. Almost a dozen students — and their parents — have filed suit against the city of New York and New York state, along with state and local departments of education.

They argue it’s gotten too hard to fire poorly performing teachers and that New York tenure laws violate the state constitution.

The lawsuit comes on the heels of another challenge to tenure laws, in California. In that case, an LA judge said tenure laws, “have deprived students of the quality education they’re entitled to.”