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Macy’s CEO confident in difficult time

In the second part of his interview with Macy's Terry Lundgren, Kai Ryssdal asks the CEO how he'll know if Black Friday will be a success for him, and what he's learned about hard times working in retail for 30 years.

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EXECUTIVE PROFILE

Who: Macy’s Chairman and CEO Terry Lundgren.

Education: Lundgren earned an undergraduate business degree from the University of Arizona.

What you may not know: The Lundgren Center for Retailing at the University of Arizona is named for him.

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