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07/03/2017: Sure, it's summer, but let's talk about school

We know, we know: It's the height of summer vacation, but sadly policy waits for no one. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos has made school choice a priority, and charter schools are one pillar of that choice. But as charters become more popular, it's becoming apparent that the choice isn't being applied equally, and that's re-segregating some school districts. Plus, millions of students will head to college this fall, including an unknown number of undocumented students. Being a first-generation college student is tough, but undocumented status complicates things on another level. We'll talk with a few students about what they're going through. Plus, the latest news from Tesla, and just in time for the holiday weekend, a conversation with a professional grill master.

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