Jan 22, 2018

01/22/2018: This is just the way it works now.

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When all is said and done, this week's government shutdown will have lasted 60 hours, give or take. There's a deal in place that'll get things back to normal by tomorrow morning. But what's "normal" even mean? We might be…

Segments From this episode

After another shutdown, she's changing her definition of uncertainty

Jan 22, 2018
Lisa Goldenberg, president of the Delaware Steel Co., on how "the bar's been pushed way out."
The U.S. Capitol at dusk on Jan. 21 in Washington, D.C.
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Reducing legal immigration means hiring challenges for some companies

Jan 22, 2018
President Donald Trump has backed proposals to cut legal immigration by up to half. For companies that employ many immigrants, that could mean it will be harder for them to find workers to fill jobs, especially as the economy nears…

Will dysfunction in DC give our NAFTA partners an edge?

Jan 22, 2018
The next round of negotiations over the North American Free Trade Agreement officially begins tomorrow in Montreal. It’s the sixth of seven rounds, and the stakes are high. Now that the government is back open, the United States will have…

When all is said and done, this week’s government shutdown will have lasted 60 hours, give or take. There’s a deal in place that’ll get things back to normal by tomorrow morning. But what’s “normal” even mean? We might be getting used to government run on a deadline, three weeks at a time or so, but that’s not exactly “normal.” And yet, the economy seems to be giving that not-normalcy a pass. That’s where we’re starting today’s show. Then, we’ll get the real issue underpinning the shutdown, one that hasn’t been resolved yet: What’s the vision for immigration in this country? President Donald Trump and some Republicans in Congress are pushing to dramatically reduce legal immigration to the United States, and to move the overarching concept from family reunification to a skills-based system. That means fewer workers in an already tight labor market, and it’s making some businesses anxious. Plus, introducing our latest project: Divided Decade.

Music from the episode

Adult Acid Thee Oh Sees
Juicy The Notorious B.I.G.
Reflektor Arcade Fire
The World Ender Lord Huron
Paranoid Times (feat. Tre Hardson) Alex Lilly, Tre Hardson