This Is Uncomfortable February 12, 2026 Transcript
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Sam Sanders: My first bit of advice is not quite an “I told you so” but this was bound to get messy…
Reema Khrais: I'm Reema Khrais and welcome to This Is Uncomfortable, a show about life and how money messes with it. This week we're answering your questions about money and dating, and don't worry, we're not gonna do the “who pays on the first date kind of questions.” We're gonna go to some more uncomfortable and outlandish places from questions about dating a scammer to secret investments. And by the way, if you have a sticky money situation you need advice on, call us at 347-RING-TIU or email us at uncomfortable at marketplace dot org.
Joining me to answer your questions is one of my favorite podcasters. Sam Sanders, host of the Sam Sanders Show. Hello, Sam.
Sanders: Hi, my friend. Um, people might not know, but we go way back.
Khrais: We do. Like more than a decade at this point, right?
Sanders: Yeah, we had the same fellowship many, many years ago.
Khrais: Yeah. I think you did it several years before I did. And then we overlapped a little in the office at NPR.
Sanders: Yeah. I kind of helped show you the ropes a little bit.
Khrais: I, I know I remember you as this, like, larger than life presence in the office and just like one of the go-to people for advice. Honestly, which is probably why you came to mind when doing this episode because you've got the hot takes. You've got the hot takes.
Sanders: So many.
Khrais: You have so many, and about relationships.
Sanders: Better stop talking. Heck, yeah.
Khrais: So this will be great. Um…
Sanders: I’m excited.
Khrais: Do you, are you, would you say you're like one of the go-to people in your friend circles for relationship advice?
Sanders: I think that people come to me because I do a really good job or have gotten to be better at it, and you're probably good at this too, we're really good at synthesizing information and taking stories and reducing them to like the simple nugget of truth. I think it's because we are reporters and so I know how to listen to people and say, actually it's about this.
Khrais: Mm-hmm.
Sanders: So that helps. I think…
Khrais: Like this is the thing underneath it…
Sanders: Always have the answer, but I'm, I'm, I'm pretty good at saying you think it's about this, it's actually about that. One of my favorite quotes, it's, I was with some friends we're trying to open a bottle of champagne, couldn't get it open, you know, the little cork top, couldn’t get it open.
Khrais: Mm-hmm.
Sanders: And then someone in the group goes, “Sometimes you gotta twist the bottle, not the cork.”
Khrais: Whoop!
Sanders: That's it. Like, that's it. And so it's like, if I can have conversations like that where I adjust either my or my friend's point of view, that's the real work.
Khrais: It's like you're looking at the wrong place. It's over here, actually.
Sanders: Mm-hmm.
Khrais: So before we get into the questions, I’m curious, what is like the weirdest conversation about money that you've had on a date? Anything come to mind?
Sanders: Hmmm… I have, and this is with my current partner, on our first date, we talked about dead moms and bad breakups, and I got all the details of his divorce. And lemme tell you something…
Khrais: First date?
Sanders: Divorce is a story about money. Always.
Khrais: Yep. Yep. Yep. Y’all went deep.
Sanders: And the older I get, 'cause I'm, I'm 41 now, so I have a lot of friends who are either going through or are done with divorces. It's crazy. So I guess my first piece of advice is prenup. Prenup. Prenup.
Khrais: Yep, we just recorded an episode that’ll come out next week about prenups and how we all need to get them.
Sanders: You really do. You really do. Yeah.
Khrais: I was thinking about this question myself. This wasn't a conversation about money, but I have a memory of being in college and going on this lunch date with one of my classmates. And we were meeting up at like the student union or something, and the plan was for him to show up with food. And I just remember him walking towards me and his jacket was like kind of bulging outward and he unzips the jacket and takes out these two boxes of like Chinese food or whatever. And I was like, oh, why? Like, why were you carrying the food like that? And he was like, oh, well don't judge me. But I stole it.
Sanders: Did he steal it?
Khrais: He stole the food.
Sanders: Ah! Wow.
Khrais: And you know, like it turns out this was something he did all the time and it was just like a regular routine of his.
Sanders: A lot of people steal. This is also a thing…
Khrais: A lot of people steal, turns out.
Sanders: That I realize the older I get.
Khrais: Right?
Sanders: I know thieves and I'm not gonna name names, but people have sticky fingers.
Khrais: And they're not afraid to admit it. I think, like, I was horrified and a bit intrigued.
Sanders: Yeah. People steal.
Khrais: And yeah, right. There's like a narrative that they can tell themselves to feel better and you know, clearly I was 18 at the time, I bought it. I dated him for the next, for the next year or so.
Sanders: It worked.
Khrais: It worked. It worked. It wooed me.
Sanders: I hope you got free food for the whole relationship.
Khrais: Well let's get into the questions. Our producer Alice Wilder will be reading them for us. Hello Alice.
Alice Wilder: Hi, Reema. Hi, Sam.
Sanders: Hi.
Wilder: Okay. Are y'all ready for our first question?
Khrais: Yes, go for it.
Wilder: Okay. “My dad, who's 60, met a 21-year-old passenger while driving for Uber. She told him she was homeless, so we started paying for her hotel, helped her get a job, bought her a car, and in total he's hemorrhaged about $20,000 in about two months.” Sam, I can see your eyes just got so big. “He borrowing money that he doesn't have, and everyone around him is telling him that she's using him. She tells him that everyone is just jealous or dislikes her, but he's convinced she's the real deal. He even got a tattoo of her name. How do I make him see that she's probably scamming him, or do I just have to let him learn the hard way?” Signed, witness to a scam.
Sanders: Follow up question. Are they sleeping together?
Khrais: I, I would presume so.
Sanders: Yeah.
Khrais: Does that change the answer for you? The calculation?
Sanders: Yeah, I mean, I will say this…
Khrais: Yeah, what are your thoughts?
Sanders: I am at the age where a lot of my friends are dealing with parents who are older and susceptible to getting scammed. My mother, before she died, bless her soul, I had a phase where she was sending way too much money to televangelists. So I would say first order of business for this person who wrote the letter, don't spiral because this happens frequently to lots of people and you aren't the first to deal with this. And then two, I would say, think about where your father will accept the most feedback and from whom. A lot of times people don't want to hear the right thing to do from their kid, 'cause it's weird for a kid to exert authority or expertise over them. So was there someone else involved in your father's life, family or friend who can do that for you? That's my first two takes.
Khrais: Yeah. I mean, it's sad and it feels like one of those situations where you really have to wait for the person to wake up. Like I, it, it's really hard to logic someone out of an emotional situation.
Sanders: Exactly.
Khrais: And especially in the case where you're trading, you know what essentially he's doing at the core of it, is like he's trading money for a feeling that he's probably craving, right? Like, which is needing to feel relevant or young again, or chosen or whatever. And so it's like you're in this loop where you're giving more money and that's creating a sense of closeness, which justifies more money. And the only way it usually ends is when they're like financially wiped out.
Sanders: Exactly.
Khrais: I think you can ask questions that kind of force him to name the reality that he's in. You know what I mean? Like…
Sanders: What’s an example of one of those questions?
Khrais: How much of your retirement or debt have you touched? What are you gonna do six months from now if she's still asking you for money?
Sanders: I also think part of the work when you're dealing with this, people who are close to you, who are being financially irresponsible, half the work is trying to help them through it, but the other half is keeping your own peace in the midst of it. When you see a parent suffering like this and they're suffering, they might not think they're suffering, but they are. When you see a parent going through this, when you see a parent letting go of their life savings, it can very easily drive you into a state of frenzy or spiral. You have to not let that happen to you. Because you won't be able to help them if you're spiraling yourself.
You can't yell at them until they figure it out, and you can't blame yourself for it happening or it continuing to happen. It's happening. I have told people all the time, when you are experiencing an adult in your life who is acting like a child, that is the time at which you most need to be an adult.
Khrais: Okay, Witness to a Scam, you’re dealing with a very complex and infuriating situation. If you can, keep your cool, ask him questions about his relationship and let him know that you’ll be there to support him if he decides to leave. But ultimately, you can’t control what another adult does with their money.
Wilder: Okay. Here's our next question. “I'm queer and poly and have been dating a man who makes at least three times as much as me. For a while, he paid for everything on our dates, which I really appreciated since I don't make a ton of money. Then he went on a big expensive vacation with his primary partner. Ever since, he stopped paying for things on dates. He even Venmo requested me for half a pizza after saying he would pick it up for us. Is it weird if I bring this up with him?” Signed secondary partner.
Khrais: Hmm. What are you thinking, Sam?
Sanders: I I… Blessings to everyone poly listening to this, but I'm just gonna say, from my own point of view, when you start to get into the space of primaries and secondaries and… that's messy. And so, my first bit of advice is not quite “I told you so,” but this was bound to get messy. And I think that the problem with some of these relationships is that once the hierarchy is set, nothing else is set. So there probably was never a grounding conversation about how money needs to work in the relationship. 'Cause had there been, he would've had to talk to you first before this total switch up.
Khrais: Right. That's interesting. Yeah. I don't really know much about poly relationships, but my understanding is that like in a healthy situation, you're supposed to talk openly about, like who the primary and the secondary and the…
Sanders: But it's romantic. It's not the logistics. It's not the…
Khrais: Yeah.
Sanders: Like, I feel like, are you having to talk about money? Oh, go ahead.
Khrais: Yeah. Alice, what are you thinking?
Wilder: Oh, I was gonna say, a lot of my friends are poly and I think it’s important to remember that you're not less than just because you're not, you don't live with this person and you're not legally married. Like you still can advocate for yourself in these situations or be like, “hey, this feels a little weird. Like, I don't really know what the solution is, but it feels kind of weird to me. Let's talk about it.”
Khrais: Otherwise, like money is quietly demoting you or it's like setting up that ranking. And I think even if they're not in a poly relationship, it is, you know, something worth talking about, I think, because it seems like, implicitly this person was saying like, “I have more money so I will cover things. Don't worry about it,” which, creates like a sense of care and security. And now because he's pulling back his spending, I can imagine the listener feels like, he's not as valued or not in the same category. I mean, definitely not in the same category as the primary partner. So I think you can say like, “I noticed something changed after the trip and it changed how secure I'm feeling, and I just wanna get a sense of like where you're at.”
Sanders: Yeah. Well, and you know, not to bash anyone in poly relationships, most non-poly relationships, they don't have these conversations either.
Khrais: True!
Sanders: I have dated guys who have made more money than me, or less money than me, and I've been on both sides of the equation, and we've never had that dialogue.
Khrais: Mm-hmm.
Sanders: And the times when it has come up, it's kind of been an argument with tears, 'cause one of us is like, I'm broke, I can't do this. You know?
Khrais: It’s reached a boiling point. Yeah.
Sanders: Yeah. And so I think that, I'm really intrigued what is it about the poly nature of your relationship that is part of this problem? And it seems as if this writer is implying that they feel, or maybe they're noticing that he's paying for the other partner, just not for this one. And if that's the case, I think you really should have a conversation about how the money is working there, because it's not just money anymore. It's like emotional and it’s…
Khrais: And what it signals about the relationship. Yeah.
Sanders: It is signaling something about your relationship. I think that there's a way to bring it up that is not accusatory, that is not forcing an ultimatum. You can just say the next time there's a hang that will involve spending money, just say very casually and quickly, I am trying to spend less money these days. I would love for us to pick some kind of activity that is pretty cheap or free and just see what they say, and that might open up the doors of the conversation.
Khrais: True.
Sanders: But that's probably easier to do than say…
Khrais: Hey, I noticed this thing.
Sanders: I want to talk to you about the way that you spend money. You know, make it an “I” conversation. I'm spending less money right now. How can we accommodate that? Also, he should have took you on that vacation.
Khrais: I know, right? Primary, secondary. Let's all do it.
Sanders: Come on. Come on!
Khrais: So Secondary partner, no matter your relationship structure, you should be able to have candid conversations about money. Start from a nonjudgemental place, and see how your partner responds. It could be that the conversation becomes less about money, and more about how they do or don’t make you feel valued.
After the break...
Sanders: I think there's some larger, deep seated issues around money here that haven't really been unpacked. If he can't address it, I'd say run for the doors.
Khrais: More of your questions on money and dating.
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Khrais: Welcome back. I'm here with podcaster Sam Sanders. We’re answering your questions you sent into our hotline– 347-RING-TIU or over by email at uncomfortable at marketplace dot org. We’re always accepting questions on how money makes life messy, so keep sending those our way. Okay, producer Alice Wilder has our next question...
Wilder: “I've been with my fiance for three years and we're stuck on where to build our life. We both grew up in the same big city and our families are here. But he works in a niche industry where the best jobs are a two-hour flight away, in a city where we don't know anyone. I've been clear that I don't wanna leave. Even thinking about moving makes me panic and it almost broke us up last year. If he can't find something while paying here, moving feels inevitable. I'm really torn. I'd rather stay put, even if that means you make less money. But at the same time, I don't want him to feel stunted in his career and resent me. What should I do?” Signed, Move Out or Move On.
Khrais: This is a… this is a classic conundrum, where to live. What are you thinking, Sam?
Sanders: I think bringing up the R word is good to do because resentment will end a relationship.
Khrais: Right, right.
Sanders: It just will. And so if you're already worried about resentment, that means it's a serious issue, uh, that needs to be taken seriously. I would say… gosh, I hate to say my advice is like break up, but like, if…
Khrais: If you’re not aligned…
Sanders: If you know you can't budge and they can't budge and you aren't aligned, like where do both of you see yourselves in 10 years and how closely are you, are you tied or wedded to that vision and version of your life? If you're really tied to being where you are and you don't want to change that, having to move will make you resent him. If he's really tied to moving and you make him stay, it'll make him resent you, and resentment will end the relationship. So I would say if you can't find something that will lead to neither of you having resentment over this, it might be worth considering ending the relationship.
Khrais: This is tough. I, I personally know people who've been in this situation. I'm thinking of one couple and it did lead to resentment because I think part of it though, was they just didn't have an open conversation about it. It was just kind of assumed that that's what they were going to do. And so I think, you know, similar to what we've been saying, you wanna ground it in I statements, right? Like you're not saying that your career is not important. You're saying like, I'm really scared of losing my support system here. And my sense of home and my friends and family and everything that makes my life feel like my life.
And he's probably afraid of not advancing his career. And so yeah, I think those are both very real fears. and I think you can like fall into the trap of feeling like it's a negotiation when really it's a conversation, probably about your values and what you're willing to. And also I think it's easy to think that something like this will be forever.
Sanders: Yeah.
Khrais: You know?
Sanders: But it might not be.
Khrais: But it might not be. And you can always go into something with a kind of agreement, like…
Sanders: No one has an end date.
Khrais: Yeah, this is an experiment. We're gonna see what happens, and also if we do do this, then I need to know that, you know, we can afford for me to go home.
Sanders: Yeah.
Khrais: Every, whatever, couple months or…
Sanders: Yeah, I have many couples in my life in which one of them is in medical school.
Khrais: Yes. That's actually the case I was thinking of.
Sanders: Yeah, at a certain point they have to go somewhere for residency and it's usually somewhere else. But the agreement has always been, we'll do this for you for a few years, and then once that's done, we'll move for me in a few years. So maybe there's a scenario in which you both just put a timeline on it. We’ll try this out, but if at year three or four or five, it still does not work, we're gonna move somewhere else or move back, and if that were a part of the conversation, it might help both of you feel like you were getting something out of this arrangement.
Khrais: Alright, Move Out or Move On: this doesn’t have to be a make or break for your relationship. But you should both sit down and consider where you see yourselves in the next five years and how flexible you can be about those plans. Preventing resentment is the name of the game, so make sure you are honest with yourself and your partner about what you’re willing to accept.
Okay, let’s move on to our next question with our producer Alice
Wilder: Okay. “The guy I'm dating financially supports his family, and I know he's in a lot of debt. At the same time, he insists on paying for everything. For example, we recently went to see a movie together, and since I got to the theater before him, I got our tickets and a couple of sodas. He insisted on buying two more sodas because he couldn't accept that he wasn't paying for the date. I make a good living and would love to split expenses more evenly. Part of this is cultural. We're both Arab and I don't wanna embarrass him by citing his debt as a reason for us to split things. But I also don't want dating me to make his financial situation even worse.” Signed, Dating Debt.
Khrais: Oh, what are you thinking, Sam?
Sanders: I think that there are some red flags for me. Because if this guy is not just supporting his family to the point where he's going into debt, but also paying a second time for things you've already paid for. I think there's some larger, deep seated issues around money here that haven't really been unpacked. And I think that there's a lot of pride in there. A lot of maybe male-centric pride that needs to be addressed, but if he can't address it, I'd say run for the doors.
Khrais: Oof. That's pretty, um, sweet and simple. I think, I mean, honestly, this hits pretty close to home as an Arab American myself.
Sanders: Really?
Khrais: Yeah, I feel like I've been in this situation before because…
Sanders: What did you do?
Khrais: I mean, I didn't end up staying with that kind of guy. Yeah, yeah.
Sanders: Okay, and there you have it. And there you have it.
Khrais: Alright. I mean, it's, it's tough because I do think in, uh, in Arab cultures, this is very, you know, speaking very generally here, there is a strong expectation that the man, in a heterosexual relationship, there's an expectation that they're gonna provide financially. And so it can feel shameful to show up sort of metaphorically empty-handed when you're dating or courting someone. So I can imagine, obviously that's why he was like, I know I'm gonna pay for these sodas, but I think you're right. I think that's because money and masculinity are very interwoven, and it goes, like what he did was beyond just like a nice gesture. It was like a very strong way of being like, no.
Sanders: It's a sign of dominance.
Khrais: This is the dynamic.
Wilder: There’s also only two cup holders at your seats, so what are you going to do with four sodas?
Sanders: Exactly.
Khrais: You're like, it's just actually inconvenient.
Wilder: Yeah, like logistically, it doesn’t make sense.
Sanders: Well, and it, yeah, and it's not helping the future of their relationship as a couple. He's not building the foundation of y'all's relationship if he's already wasting money to speak to his pride, he's wasting in that way.
Khrais: But there are people. Yeah, but Sam, there are people who would love being in this kind of relationship, right? Who would expect that… you’re raising your hand. But I think, and it depends on how, also, early they are in the relationship. I think if it's early days, then maybe this is like him really just trying to court her. And if it becomes a pattern, then I would say you make it… You make the conversations about like partnership and not pity. Like you're not going to him saying, “Hey, you're in debt, so stop paying so much.” Instead you're saying, like, “hey, I wanna feel like this is a meaningful partnership.”
Sanders: I'm in this with you.
Khrais: Right! Like, “I wanna contribute. It actually makes me feel like I wanna show my care that way. It makes me feel closer to you.” And then I think if he's not budging, then…
Sanders: I think the first thing you look for and see if he can make progress on this, it's like, all right, the problem already exists. You're not gonna break up with him because the problem exists. But the next step is can he communicate about the problem, this problem effectively, and speak to his emotions and find a solution and a way forward. If he can have a good and substantive conversation with you in this moment about pride and money, you're on the right track. But if he can't have a conversation about this, what else will he not be able to have a conversation with you about? So it seems like it's less about the money and more about the communication. So maybe the, the next test for you as you navigate this problem is not so much thinking about the money first, but thinking about can this guy communicate with me in the way that I need to feel supported in a relationship? And if not. If not…
Khrais: All right, let me know.
Sanders: Send them my way. I won’t ask Any questions.
Khrais: Give me those four sodas.
Dating debt, it sounds like it’s still early days with this guy, which means it’s the perfect time to figure out whether he can have a vulnerable conversation about money. If he’s not able to set aside his pride and let you contribute financially to dates, then maybe you should start going to the movies with friends, instead.
Wilder: Okay. Are y'all ready for our final question?
Sanders: Sure.
Wilder: Okay. I recently overheard a conversation between my long-term girlfriend and her mom, where they were speculating about whether or not I knew that my girlfriend had over $50,000 invested in oil. I did not know this. I've been struggling to get by and had no idea she had that much money to invest in anything, let alone oil. I'm pretty progressive and care deeply about climate change as an issue. I understand it's impossible to be fully divested from fossil fuels, but 50K is a pretty major investment. It's her money, but it does seem to reveal a big difference in our values. Should I bring this up to her? Signed divest from dating.
Khrais: Messy. What do you think, Sam?
Sanders: Are you mad about the oil investment or are you mad about your partner not sharing 50K with you?
Khrais: Hmm. Yeah, it seems like both.
Sanders: I couldn't tell from the, from the question. Yeah, and it seems like you need to have a conversation with yourself before you make it a conversation with your partner.
Khrais: Hmm.
Sanders: Because what I would hate for you to do is hide your complex emotions about money and sharing under a certain kind of performative progressivism in which it's all about the oil and divesting. It's not just about that. It's clearly not. So think about what's really at play in this issue for you before you talk to your partner. And then besides that, I don't know, call me old school. If y'all aren't married. How they invest their money is their business.
Khrais: I think I actually wanna push back because I think you're right to some degree, what someone does with their money while they're dating is their money. But like, I don't know, if you're trying to build a family together, then you kind of wanna be morally and financially aligned if that's what the intention is.
Sanders: Oh, for sure. I think if this were less than a year and we still weren't too serious yet and hadn't, and hadn't talked about making plans for a future, I'd leave it alone. If you're building a life with this person and see yourself living together, being married, having kids, and it's for sure worth talking about, but I would not do the thing where I make the conversation all about one's politics. It's about much more than that, and it's much more emotional than that. So be sure that you're being clear about what you want out of all of this.
Khrais: Like you can approach it saying, I have overheard something that really surprised me, didn't realize you had that money invested, but it also makes me feel like I don't actually understand your financial world or how you think about what matters. So like, can we talk about that?
Sanders: Yeah, exactly. And you know, the hypothetical for this relationship and for this person who wrote the letter is, what is the right thing to do in a relationship when the partner who, who has more money is investing it? Does this person expect an obligation or a duty to have that be shared with them? I'm implying that they kind of think the partner has a responsibility to not just share the information of this money existing, but to share in how it's invested. And that requires a conversation about what the expectations are of this relationship, 'cause this partner might have a different expectation. It seems like they do, 'cause they haven't talked to 'em about it, you know? So expectation and level setting is really important in this moment too, I think.
Wilder: I think the fact that the mom and the girlfriend were having this conversation speculating about whether he knew, makes me think that they know that he would have a problem with it…
Khrais: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Wilder: Being oil. That like, I think, adds a layer of like, I mean, my partner and I talk about like, which stores we shop at and which ones we don't, or which products we feel good about buying and which ones we don't.
Khrais: Mm-hmm.
Wilder: A year in, and I think I, if I found out someone who I'd been with long term was investing in something and actively keeping it a secret that I was really morally opposed to, I didn't write this letter, but I would feel a type of way.
Khrais: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you're right. And you know, investing that much into oil is not a passive thing. Like you're making an active bet where she's saying she's comfortable making money off of this industry. And so, and I do think investing is one of the clearest financial ways we can express our values.
Sanders: That's true.
Khrais: So you know, if you're not aligned in that way, then it's worth knowing that and figuring it out.
Okay, Divest from dating, you and your girlfriend aren’t married so she’s not obligated to share her financial life with you. But there’s a difference between filling up your car and actively investing tens of thousands of dollars in the fossil fuel industry. And if she’s keeping that a secret from you, probably a red flag. The two of you should have a candid, non judgemental conversation about your values.
After we finished giving advice, Sam had a great reflection on the questions that you all sent in– and a final piece of advice.
Sanders: What I'm hearing in a, in more than one of these questions is what happens in a relationship when there's an income and financial differential? When one person has more and the other has less, how do you navigate that?
Khrais: It's so hard.
Sanders: I know, and it's, I, I've been in both sides of that equation. And in general, what always works well for both partners is asking yourself and asking them, how much money do I have to spend every month?
Khrais: Yeah.
Sanders: Actually, how much money do I have to spend…
Khrais: Get specific.
Sanders: Freely every month and that can help guide you to where you spend your money and what the dates look like and what you're doing. And without fail, when I've dated someone who's made more money than me, once we have that conversation, they realize that they wanna spend less money, and all of a sudden we end up cooking more and going on walks and hikes and saving some money, because like, everyone could save a little more money.
Khrais: Mm-hmm.
Sanders: You know? And so this conversation might be helpful for all parties involved. I, I think there's this fear when you're the partner not making as much money, that if you bring that up, you're gonna stifle the fun out of the relationship. But what if that person making more money also needs to save a little bit more too? You can help them out, you know?
Khrais: Yeah. Instead, it's creating more stress in the relationship.
Sanders: Romantic date of all time always is cooking together, and it’s cheap.
Khrais: Honestly, well, is it romantic or is it like a recipe for a conflict? Potentially?
Sanders: Oh.
Wilder: Reema, what's going on with that question?
Sanders: Whoa. You fighting in the kitchen?
Wilder: Do you have a story to tell us?
Khrais: I mean, have y'all never like cooked with a partner? Sometimes it's like, no, I, I gotta, I have to, I mean, I like to cook with my partner currently, but like, I've definitely had moments where it's like, “why are you cutting it like that?” “no, this is my section,” or “uh, you’re doing it wrong.” I mean, this is a common thing, though, right? No? Okay.
Alright, that's all for our show this week. You can find The Sam Sanders Show wherever you get podcasts on Thursdays and Fridays. If you disagree with one of our takes, or have your own question for us, call in at 347-RING-TIU or send us a message at uncomfortable at marketplace dot org.
And before we go, a couple weeks ago we published an episode where I spoke with Aymann Ismail about his decision to send his two kids to Islamic school, so they can learn Arabic to stay connected with their family’s roots in Egypt. He talked me through that money decision and why the extra expense is worthwhile for him… Well, I asked if his experience resonated with any of you, and we got some great responses! Here’s one voice message I wanted to share with you from a listener named Shika:
Shika: Hi, Reema, and This Is Uncomfortable team. I am a first-generation-American, so my parents came to the US from Ghana. I work in healthcare and my husband is an actuary and so we are lucky enough to make a little bit above the average. We wanted to be really intentional about raising our kids, particularly in America, where America is not as kind to black people in general. And so, it was really important for me growing up to really build my identity formation outside of what America kind of tells us we should be or what we can do. And my parents were also very intentional, and they took us back home to Ghana frequently. And now that I'm an adult with my own kids, we're doing the same. So we just bought flights to bring all four of us to Ghana, which costs nearly $5000 just for tickets alone, let alone the cost that we're gonna spend over there, but the trade-off is worth it, even if a family that makes good income like ourselves, we're still kind of scraping by in the context of how expensive childcare is. Anyway, I really love the show and thanks for the opportunity.
Khrais: Thanks to Shika for calling in. Alright, that’s all for today. This episode was lead-produced by Alice Wilder. And I’m your host, Reema Khrais. Zoë Saunders is our Senior Producer. Our intern is I-Yun Chan. Audio engineering by Drew Jostad. Bridget Bodnar is Marketplace’s Director of Podcasts. Marketplace’s Chief Content Officer is Joanne Griffith. Neal Scarbrough is Vice President and general manager of Marketplace. And our theme music is by Wonderly. Alright, we’ll catch you next week.