How much do you share with your partner about your finances? Sometimes, a little privacy starts to look a lot like a secret. And secrets (especially the money kind) have a way of becoming problems. On this week’s episode, host Reema Khrais talks to people on the street about their real-life financial secrets, and then gets some useful advice from divorce lawyer Randy Kessler and couples counselor Jeff Guenther.
A few takeaways from this episode:
Trust is the foundation. Therapist Jeff Guenther works with couples to help them get on the same page: “It might start out with not even talking about financial stuff at all,” he says. If you can’t have honest communication with your partner around the big stuff, like values and core beliefs, he suggests starting with some broader goals around communication: “How can I have a conversation with you or a feeling of safety in this relationship so that I don't feel judged and criticized and condescended and looked down upon?”
Financial distrust often comes from past trauma. “Typically when somebody is feeling betrayed because their partner isn't being financially transparent, 9 times out of 10, it's because of financial trauma,” explains Guenther. “And so we need to be able to hold the space to be non-judgmental and understanding and curious and compassionate about where the financial trauma comes from so that it can be healed.”
Think about the flipside: Instead of thinking about this question in terms of honesty and morality, we can recast this as, is financial privacy okay in a relationship? “Financial transparency is something that is earned; It's not something that's just given just because you are married now or you're in a committed relationship or whatever,” according to Guenther. And divorce lawyer Randy Kessler agrees: “Do we really expect complete transparency? How many spouses do you know that'll be totally 100% comfortable handing their phone to their spouse and saying, ‘Go ahead, scroll through my texts, my posts, my DMs.’ … Everything's a matter of degree, but certainly there's some things you wanna keep private, you wanna write in your diary, you wanna go to a therapist where you can talk freely.”
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Reema Khrais: When I was in fifth grade, I used to carpool with a neighbor. And I remember once her mom pulled into a gas station and and then sprinted into the convenience store, and she came back with a bunch of snacks, a bag of chips, maybe some juice and she handed some of it to us in the backseat. And then she looked at her daughter and whispered, “We don’t need to tell dad about this.”
It was a small thing. But I think when you’re a kid, you can register when something feels off, even if you don’t really know why. Kind of like hearing a note that’s out of tune, your ear catches it even if you know nothing about music. Who knows what was behind that comment? But the story I tell myself about it is that my friend’s mom probably didn’t want to get into an argument about it with her husband. Maybe he’s a little stricter when it comes to spending money. Maybe it was easier just to keep it a secret.
I’m Reema Khrais and welcome to This is Uncomfortable, a show from Marketplace about life and how money messes with it. We’re now a weekly podcast, which gives us a chance this February to spend some real time on a topic that comes up over and over in my conversations with people: money and love.
It can be hard sometimes figuring out what’s yours, what’s shared, what we owe each other.
So this week, we’re asking: Is it ever okay to keep financial secrets when you’re in a relationship? Because sometimes, a little privacy starts to look a lot like a secret. And secrets, especially the money kind, have a way of becoming problems.
There’s this park that I often go to by my house and one afternoon, I walked up there with my recorder and just asked people what they thought – many of them were hanging out on this large patch of green grass, reading or chatting with friends. I felt a little bad bombarding strangers with intimate financial questions at 2pm on a Thursday, but surprisingly everyone I approached was down to talk about this and they had pretty strong opinions:
Khrais: Do you think it's ever okay to keep a financial secret from a partner?
PERSON 1: No
PERSON 2:, No. I don't.
PERSON 3: I, I don't wanna hide any, I'm not, I'm, I, I'm not a man of secrets.
PERSON 4: I do think it is okay if it's your own part of your money.
PERSON 5: You don't need to share everything and you can have even separate bank accounts if you want.
PERSON 6: Oh, well, okay, so if you're like sharing an account, probably shouldn't be dipping into that pot, you know what I mean?
Khrais: Have you ever kept a financial secret from a partner?
PERSON 6: Yeah. Yes, I have. Yeah, I learned that lesson the hard way. I would rather have the trust than the little bit of money in my pocket.
PERSON 4: I've kept debt secrets from partners for sure, but it's 'cause it's my own problem.
PERSON 7: If it's a couple hundreds, I, I think that's okay.
PERSON 1: Yeah sometimes I’ve done things like that without asking.
Khrais: So then did you tell her eventually?
PERSON 1: Yeah, sometimes I did. Sometimes she'd never bothered about it because I never bothered about what she did with her money.
Khrais: If your partner secretly spent like $500 on something and you found out, how would you react?
PERSON 8: I don't know. Is it a gift for me?
Khrais: No.
PERSON 8: I would be a little upset. And likewise, if I wanted to make a purchase like that, I would run it by her.
Khrais: Can you finish this sentence: “I tell my partner everything except for when I spend money on…”
PERSON 6: Probably how much beer I drink and how much my skateboard parts cost.
PERSON 4: The only thing I would maybe say is maybe like a pair of of shoes.
PERSON 2: Hobbies, yarn, fabric.
Khrais: That's so real. I, I buy so much yarn and I like, I've gotten to the point where I'm like, I, I can't tell my husband this.
PERSON 2: And it's, and it's sneakily expensive.
Khrais: Yeah! You're like, why am I spending hundreds of dollars on yarn right now?
PERSON 2: Yep, yep. Like I'll make a sweater and that's like 200 bucks right there. And that is something I don't even wanna admit to myself.
Khrais: I know, I know.
Khrais: Those are people I chatted with in Portland, Oregon, but also let me know how you’d answer these questions - you can call our hotline and leave a message: 347-RING-TIU.
Listening back to all these answers, I noticed that… kind of consistently… people contradicted themselves. Like they’d say, “yeah duh, you want total financial honesty in a relationship” – as if I were an idiot for even asking the question. And then, almost in the same breath, they’d make some qualification or confess to hiding a purchase themselves. And I get it. It’s a big question with answers that sound a lot like “well I don’t know. It depends,” like most people told me if you’re just dating, then no, you don’t have to tell your partner how much debt you have or justify why you spent two hundred dollars on a new gadget. But when you’re til-death-do-us-part kind of serious, then those little white lies can feel less harmless and more like a referendum on the whole relationship.
And that got me wondering: when couples split up, how often are financial secrets part of the story? I called up someone who’s seen just about every version of how this plays out.
Randy Kessler: I'm Randy Kessler. I, uh, founded a firm in Atlanta that does nothing but divorce work and I wrote a book called Divorce: Protect Yourself, Your Kids, and Your Future.
Khrais: I'm curious, this may not be relevant, but why did you become a divorce attorney?
Kessler: Well, how much time do you have? You know, I could say my parents got divorced when I was 18 and I always wanted to right their wrongs, but that's not it. I wanted to be a litigator. I was young and hungry. And eventually within a year or two, I started realizing family law clients liked me, appreciated me, said I really helped them. So it just stroked my ego. I felt like I was helping people and uh, I found my passion early on. I'm lucky.
Khrais: Okay, so I contacted you because I'm so curious how often financial secrets come up in your work with couples or I guess couples that are getting divorced?
Kessler: The biggest fight, the biggest dispute in a divorce or marital situation is not about how to get a bigger percentage, but it's what are we fighting about? What is the marital pot? People try to hide assets all the time. They make it hard to find them because if you can't find them, you can't divide 'em. Right? You file a case in a family court, you automatically are required to then turn around and produce your last three years of tax returns, your bank statements. Because if a judge has to divide things, what are they gonna rely on? Your word? They're not gonna rely on your word. They're gonna say, I wanna see what you told the government you earned.
Khrais: Wait. So then during the discovery process, do all these financial secrets come to the surface?
Kessler: Yes. Now, you know, and it goes both ways. Sometimes people know all the financials about their whole family. Some people have been kept in the dark. And we represent the typical wife whose husband is rich and says, here, just sign this tax return. And once a year they glimpse at it, before he yanks it out of her hand and doesn't know what she signed. But that's when it comes up, is when the spouses start to exchange information. You know, I would trust a woman's intuition more than I trust a private investigator. You know, if my client says, I think he's got more money than he's letting on, that makes me look a little harder. Dig a little deeper.
Khrais: Yeah.
Kessler: And then the ultimate fail safe is in big cases, big dollar cases. We almost always hire forensic accountants, not a CPA who files tax returns.
Khrais: Yeah.
Kessler: But a CPA who looks at all the, the documents and says, wow, there's a lot of smoke here. I don't know how he or she's spending that much. There must be another source of income or another asset, or another bank account. And they help us figure out where there's money hidden.
Khrais: Whoa! So they're like a kind of detective.
Kessler: Yeah.
Khrais: And then what are some of the most common things that come about during that process? Like what are the financial lies that just show up over and over again?
Kessler: All sorts of things. You know, the, uh, the fun ones are when you see that the husband, in his accounting, it shows that he paid for two tennis bracelets, for instance.
Khrais: Okay.
Kessler: And the wife says, I only, you only gave me one tennis bracelet. It must be a mistake. I said, oh, well, you know, he got his girlfriend one and he got his wife one. Um…
Khrais: Geez.
Kessler: Because he felt guilty. So we see things like that. Or we see money that's given to relatives that, you know, why did the bank account go from 800,000 to 400,000? You know, oh, it was a loan to my brother. Really? So we see all sorts of stuff.
Khrais: Wow. Why do you, why do you think people, this is maybe a silly question, but why do you think people lie?
Kessler: Why do you think people breathe? Why? You know?
Khrais: You’re like, yes that is a silly question. But do you think there are cases where people are hiding the money and they actually don't think it's a big deal? Like they're surprised by their partner's reaction?
Kessler: Yeah, I think some people have, you know, especially people that get married after they're successful, after they've lived a while in their, in their thirties, forties, fifties, or second or third marriage, and they just say, this is mine, it's my business. And sometimes there's a prenuptial agreement that says, that's okay. You know, we agree. You've already established your life in what you have, and I've established mine. Let's be together. But my money is staying mine. Yeah. And your money is staying yours. But even then, you still have to let them know what they're giving up, what rights they're giving up. So, uh, you know, people still… Some people are very uncomfortable with even their spouse knowing what they earn or how much they make, or how little they make.
Khrais: Yeah. Well that reminds me, can you share the anecdote that you mentioned over email? That was wild.
Kessler: Yeah, I was actually talking about that with a couple other lawyers here, and I'm not alone. It's happened a few times where, you know, people come to us and they say, I want to have a prenup. And we say, what do you want? You know, what do you want him or her to have? What do you wanna protect? And then we come to the part of the conversation where I say, okay, to make it enforceable, you need to disclose everything. He or she on the other side needs to know what they're giving up. How much do you have? A million, 5 million. Nothing. And as soon as we have that conversation, there's always somebody who says, if I have to tell him everything I have, I'd rather not get married. And, and I've had, I've had at least one that I can remember. I know one of my partners just told me a story about somebody.
Khrais: Really?
Kessler: Yeah. They’re like, I don't want them to know how much I have. They're gonna look at me different, or sometimes I don't want them to know how little I have, you know?
Khrais: Yeah. So then did they not get married?
Kessler: Uh, yes. A few of 'em have not gotten, um, one in particular that I recall, they took a break and then a year later they came back and got married. Um, he got used to the idea.
Khrais: I mean, there is this weird tension where you expect total transparency in relationships, but then when it comes to finances, we wanna feel like we're these autonomous adults and we can make, you know, we, we can control the money.
Kessler: Well, I'm gonna push back. I mean, do we really expect complete transparency? I mean, think about this. How many spouses do you know that'll be totally 100% comfortable handing their phone to their spouse and saying, go ahead. Scroll through my texts, my posts, my DMs. You, you'd like to think that everybody is fine with it.
Khrais: I think a lot would though.
Kessler: I do. I agree. But isn't there a time when sometimes maybe your best friend texts you something and says,
Khrais: Sure.
Kessler: Is your husband really that good in bed? And you have to write back and you wanna write back girl talk and you know, and…
Khrais: I don't know if I'm getting those kinds of texts, but yeah, I know what you mean. There's some things where you're like, uh, that might hurt their feelings, or it's not like a thing that they need to see or know. But then should that extend to finances?
Kessler: Right. It's a degree, everything's a matter of degree, but certainly there's some things you wanna keep private, you wanna write in your diary, you wanna go to a therapist where you can talk freely that you had a dream about killing your spouse. But you don't want your spouse to know that you've had that dream. You're trying to figure out why you had that dream, because you love him. You know, there, there are things that you, there are, there are secrets that…
Khrais: That's dark
Kessler: that people keep from each other and, and I think there's things that people should keep from each other.
Khrais: I feel like you speak like someone who has seen and heard a lot.
Kessler: Yeah. Well, that, that's true. Maybe I'm a little bit jaded, right. My, my job's to think about worst case scenario and how to, how to avoid a disaster and…
Khrais: That’s real though. It's real. If you can share, what's the weirdest thing someone's partner found out they'd been secretly spending money on?
Kessler: Oh my. I mean, I, all sorts of things. I remember when I was a young lawyer, someone came in with a black gym bag. They said, let me show you, you know, something. And she opened it. It was all his sexual tools, devices that, that she had never seen. So it was to do with somebody else. So that, that wasn't a lot of money that was spent. Um. You know there's, I had a jury trial with the jury…
Khrais: Did she come to you with that? And was like I want a divorce.
Kessler: And she wanted to leave it in my office. I said, you're taking that back home.
Khrais: You're like, no, no.
Kessler: I had a jury trial. We have jury trials in Georgia in divorce, and I had a divorce jury trial where the jury found that my athlete, my football player client, they had a forensic accountant, went through the numbers and they calculated that he spent $250,000 in a year on strip clubs.
Khrais: Oh my God.
Kessler: Well, the funny thing is that while the jury was deliberating overnight, I, I stupidly asked the question, what are you gonna do tonight until we come back in the morning? He said, are you kidding?
Khrais: He's like, isn't it pretty obvious what I’m going to do?
Kessler: Yeah. I'm gonna make it rain.
Khrais: Right, right. That's so funny. Only if you feel comfortable answering these questions, I feel like I have to ask you: are, are you married?
Kessler: Sure.
Khrais: Have you gotten divorced?
Kessler: I am. No, I'm married. And I'll be candid, did not have a prenup. I was in love, wanted to get married, didn't wanna create the friction. Probably a financial, mathematical, logical mistake, but it doesn't matter because I trust her and I don't think she would ever try to attack me for my money, and she'll be just fine if we ever got, godforbid, got divorced.
Khrais: I don't know if you're actually gonna tell the truth when I ask you this, but have you ever kept a financial secret from her?
Kessler: That's an interesting question. I'm trying to think. If I have, it's not intentional.
Khrais: Yeah.
Kessler: I don't have any accounts that she doesn't know about. She trusts me. We have joint accounts when she needs money or I need money. We, we share credit cards, we share everything. I don't have a credit card she doesn't know that. No, I think the answer to that is, I had to think for a second though. But, um, well,
Khrais: because there are a lot of like everyday things that can happen sometimes where you're like, it's not like you're not…
Kessler: Well, I'm embarrassed if I spend, if I spend, you know, $200 on a tie that I love, which is rare. I got like cheap ties. But if I went out and spent $200 on a tie while I was on a business trip, I probably would think twice before and then I would tell her and she would…
Khrais: Right.
Kessler: She would yell at me and say, you know, are you crazy?
Khrais: And you'd be like, but look at this tie. It's so nice.
Kessler: Right.
Khrais: Coming up after the break, one more perspective on this question. This time from someone who has more of an interest in keeping couples together.
Also if you’ve ever kept a financial secret or found out you were on the other end of one, tell us about it on Instagram or Tiktok. We're keeping the conversation going at This Is Uncomfortable Pod.
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Khrais: Welcome back. I’m Reema Khrais. Today, we’re talking about money secrets – is it ever okay to keep a financial secret in a relationship? I'm curious what other questions around money and relationships have been on your mind. So let us know, leave us a voice message at our hotline: 347-RING-TIU. But back to money secrets.
So I just chatted with Randy Kessler, the divorce lawyer, and usually if you’re sitting in an office like his, things have already gotten pretty bad. But what if you’re just dating and the financial issues aren’t over dramatic betrayals or hidden fortunes?
There’s this guy who always comes up on my social media – Jeff Guenther. He’s a therapist, a licensed professional counselor based in Portland Oregon, he has thoughtful takes and sometimes honestly hot takes on relationship issues, so I really wanted to know how he thinks about this question…
I'm curious, like how often do you see couples bring up financial secrecy as a thing, as a, it's a thing they wanna talk about with you?
Jeff Guenther: Um, well, I think that they bring it up a lot, but they maybe don't really know that that's what they're bringing up because one of the very common issues that they do bring up is money, uh, and how they spend money differently. And a lot of times the, when I'm talking to any client, but especially clients that are in a couple, they feel like they spend money the right way. They like…
Khrais: Right, right. They know how to do it. Yeah. And their partner’s wrong.
Guenther: Exactly. And their partner is wrong, and they need to teach their partner the right way to do it. So we have like such weird relationships with money that come from our childhood and society and capitalism and consumerism and trauma and scarcity.
Khrais: All of the above. Yeah.
Guenther: Exactly. And so we come in with very different ideas and views of it. So it's one of the most difficult things to like compromise on or accept that your partner spends in a different way and every now and then, usually there's some sort of like aspect to it with, uh, financial secrecy, but like the bigger issue around it is like, why do you feel the need to keep this a secret from your partner?
Khrais: Right. Can you give me an example? I dunno how much you can actually share, but what are some of the common things that come up and then. What do you discover beneath that?
Guenther: Um, I can't tell you specific ones, but I can tell you ones that I'm like…
Khrais: I’m like, gimme their names.
Guenther: I mean there's like typical ones I guess. Like, uh, I don't want you to know about all of my Amazon purchases.
Khrais: Right. That feels very popular. Yeah. I can imagine that's common.
Guenther: Yeah. And we make, you know, a lot of little whatever online shopping purchases, and it's kind of like what you want me to tell you every single purchase I make. But do you also want me to tell you every single thought that I have in my head that is ridiculous, right?
Khrais: You just wanna read my journal?
Guenther: Yeah. Because that is just like too much. That's oversharing and I need some sort of form of like privacy and independence. But then if you go all the way over to like, well, we've been married, we just got married and I didn't tell you about my $250,000 in debt or my gambling addiction. Okay.
Khrais: Mm-hmm.
Guenther: Those are two very different things. Uh, so I spend a lot of time talking to couples about how are you going to split up money? Are you gonna have a shared bank account and separate bank accounts? And that takes a lot of negotiating, but typically, I think most people want some form of privacy. Um, and a lot of it comes from like, I don't wanna be judged by my partner. Just like, I wanna be able to like, purchase whatever I wanna purchase on Amazon.
Khrais: What do you think about that? Like when someone says that in a couple’s session. I, I guess you don't really take sides, right? But like, is there a part of you that is like, yeah, you should be able to purchase whatever you wanna purchase? Or how do you, how do you navigate that?
Guenther: Yeah, I mean, professionally, I'm not allowed to take sides. The, the side that I'm taking is the side of the relationship, is what they say.
Khrais: Alright. That must be so hard, by the way. I feel like, anyway, that's a whole other conversation. Okay.
Guenther: That can be, um. How do I personally feel? Uh, I think it's totally fine. As long as you're like staying within your means, and it's not hurting anybody and you're having fun with the little purchases. Then go wild. That's great.
Khrais: I'm curious, are there usually, do you find that there are deeper issues in the relationship if they're talking about money? Like are there other threads of mistrust that have come up in conversations?
Guenther: Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's happened a number of times where they find out about some bank account that has some money stashed away, and they're like, well, what does this mean? You don't trust me. Yeah. Um, you can't, you don't feel safe with me. And well, possibly, and now this is like a really good thing for all of us to talk about, and it might not be your fault, or it actually could be your fault. What are you doing to contribute to the feeling of not being safe in this relationship? Why does she feel like she needs to have a separate bank account so that she knows that she can leave whenever she wants?
Khrais: So then you're working with a couple to look for other ways to create safety potentially. It sounds like, and what can that look like? I mean, I know it can probably vary so much from couple to couple.
Guenther: It might start out with like, not even talking about financial stuff at all and just talking about like, when I talk to you about anything, my opinions, my values, my core beliefs, I feel judged by you. And so how can I have a, like a conversation with you or a feeling of safety in this relationship so that I don't feel judged and criticized and condescended and looked down upon. I find that like a lot of dudes typically are like, I know how to spend the money the right way. I should be the one that has all the control over it. And you, with your, with your girl brain, don't understand how to really…
Khrais: it feels like such a stereotype, but that's wild from your experience, it's consistently true. That's unfortunate.
Guenther: Even in progressive Portland. It's, it's, yeah. It’s still true.
Khrais: That's what I was just thinking too. I was like, wow.
Guenther: Yeah.
Khrais: And so that's so interesting because, so it sounds like there's just so much going on, right? It's like, to your point, there's the background stuff, how they were raised with money, how they think about money and, and then also that can be combined with like other dynamics and elements in the relationship that can create a feeling of mistrust or a lack of safety. It's a confluence of things.
Guenther: And also like, I think that a lot of people are like, okay, well, we're in a couple, we're in a relationship. We're even married now. So you should just be transparent about everything because
Khrais: Yeah, that's how it works.
Guenther: Cause we have a marriage license. Right that's how it works. But…transparency, financial transparency is something that is earned. It's not something that's just given just because you are married now or you're in a committed relationship or whatever. Like this is something that has to build over time, and it's also very dependent on that person's past relationships and childhood…
Khrais: Mm-hmm.
Guenther: And the culture and society that they lived in and their relationship with money and yada yada. Eventually you're gonna get to a place where maybe there is a lot more transparency, but even so, sometimes that feels way too vulnerable, and it doesn't mean that there's like cheating or financial infidelity going on. It just means that like, it's okay if you want some safety and privacy.
Khrais: Yeah! I know. That's, that's actually a question I kept thinking about just like, is, is financial transparency even the goal? Like maybe. Maybe for some couples it is, but it sounds like that's not a thing that you would push for as a therapist necessarily.
Guenther: It's a question that I'll ask at the beginning of like a relationship is like, let's get on the same page, or are we on the same page when it comes to financial transparency? Uh, but, and a lot of times, most times, I'd say, is that couples, when they are faced with this question, they do want a certain amount of privacy. Uh, and as long as they agree to it, then we're golden.
Khrais: Mm-hmm.
Guenther: Um, or if, if you're not agreeing to it, then there's needs to be some sort of like acceptance around it and understanding that this doesn't mean that you're leading a secret life and there's a betrayal involved.
Khrais: Is there anything else on this topic that we haven't touched on that you feel like is maybe surprising or unexpected or just like a good thing to point out?
Guenther: yeah. I mean, financial trauma is real, right?
Khrais: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Guenther: We, we have childhoods that, uh, are very much affected by money. And so I think that's where typically when somebody is feeling betrayed because their partner isn't being financially transparent, nine out of ten times, it's because of financial trauma. And so we need to be able to like hold the space to be non-judgmental and understanding and curious and compassionate about where the financial trauma comes from so that it can be healed, and then there can be more transparency. But more often than not, the people who are feeling like betrayed take it as like a personal attack.
Khrais: Yeah, yeah.
Guenther: And feel like there's something wrong with them, you know?
Khrais: And then it becomes harder to contain.
Guenther: Yes.
Khrais: I feel like I need to end on a hopeful note. Have you ever seen… Have you ever seen a financial secret actually bring a couple closer together? I guess that's another version of me being like….are the therapy sessions working?
Guenther: Uh, yeah. I think more often than not, more than 50% of the time, I do see, uh, financial secrecy like being exposed and it being an avenue to more transparency, which leads to more trust, which leads to like more healing relationships and closeness. Um, as long as you can understand that the financial secrecy is likely not about you, and it's about something in the past.
Khrais: Mm-hmm. That's such a good reminder. Yeah.
Guenther: And that you wanna create a healing relationship with your partner who you love, that you don't want to feel judged, then a lot of times it turns out well.
Khrais: Alright. This was really insightful. I'm really glad that we chatted. Thank you so much for doing this.
Guenther: Yeah, it was really fun. I actually love talking about this subject.
Khrais: When I first started thinking about this question...whether it’s ever OK to keep financial secrets from your partner…my brain kept thinking of it from the lens of betrayal.
But after chatting about this with so many people, the question started to feel a little different. Became less about morality and more about what we feel entitled to keep for ourselves.
So maybe the question is really…is financial privacy OK in a relationship?
But also I’m really curious to hear what y’all think. If you have any thoughts on this topic or a story you want to share, I’d love to hear them. You can always reach me and the team at uncomfortable marketplace dot org.
We’re working on an upcoming episode about doom spending. You know, feeling like what’s the point of saving for retirement or sticking to a budget when the world is on fire? Is that something you’ve been feeling? Maybe you booked a trip that’s a little too expensive? Or decided to just go ahead upgrade that couch because, you know, why not? Let me know what you’re feeling about the state of the world these days and how that’s impacting some of your financial decisions. Call our hotline and leave a message at 347-RING-TIU. That’s 347-746-4848.
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This episode was written and hosted by me, Reema. Alice Wilder is our producer. Zoë Saunders is our senior producer. Additional production support from I-Yun Chan. Bridget Bodnar is Marketplace’s Director of Podcasts. Marketplace’s Chief Content Officer is Joanne Griffith. And Neal Scarborough is Vice President and general manager of Marketplace. And Special thanks to Jasmine Romero for help on this one. And our theme music is by Wonderly.
Alright I’ll catch y’all next week but last thing before I go, here’s a snippet from one of my favorite conversations I had at the park. A friendly reminder that secrets always find an audience.
Brooklyn: I used to do manis and pedis for a living, and so I was getting everybody's beef all the time.
Khrais: So what were they telling you?
Brooklyn: Oh my God, the list is endless. Jesus, uh, people hate their husbands apparently. That's cool. They don't wanna have sex with them, I'll tell you that.
Khrais: Did they ever open up to you about their finances?
Brooklyn: Yes. They'll be like, oh no, I did this and bought this and this. Uh, he won't find out though, kind of thing. Rich people are just full of secrets.
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