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Prof. to student: Get your s*** together

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Bill Radke: And finally, an e-mail from a professor at NYU's Stern School of Business to a frustrated student making the rounds. The student walked into class an hour late, and Professor Scott Galloway told him to get out.

The student e-mailed his umbrage . . . allow me to paraphrase the professor's response. Getting and keeping a good job is really hard. Having respect and manners is pretty easy. Start by getting the easy stuff right. The entire email's worth a read.

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jennywine - Apr 11, 2013

Just flicking thought this link its says ::: lonely OLD, disillusioned, middle aged, no bodies wallowing in their out-dated dull vision of the world.
From a modern day perspective, kind of makes one think that Galloways immature action is a brain explosion and I wouldn’t want him in charge of my marketing and brand management. Yes a lot of cranky old people on this link will get all upset, but truth of the matter is this>>>marketers want dollars, most of your money will be stingy money, which is being saved for retirement, and as you age your dollar is worthless cause your loyalty to the brand is maybe 30 years left before you kick it and are buried away,,,and the brand can no longer collect money from you. As for students, we got a lot of years and money left on us to keep brands alive with brand loyalty. So OLD man Scotty shouldn’t be acting like such an a**hole cause the brands he represents need out loyalty and money!
Just to put it in perspective for you oldies xxxx Scott Galloway rates himself as a 'Clinical Professor' which is a fancy name created by insecure people to try and make themselves important in their meaningless academic lives. Xxxx Just for fun and to sound the opinion of international marketing students xxxx Galloway is supposedly a Marketing 'professor' at NYU Stern School of Business where he teaches Brand Strategy and Digital Marketing to second-year MBA students and is the 'author' of the very boring, pointless and meaningless book ‘Digital IQ Index, a global ranking of prestige brands' digital competence”>>> YAWN. Xxxx You give a monkey with a crack addiction a typewriter and it could have produced something more exciting and knowledgeable! If ‘Gagaway’ had any idea about digital, he wouldn’t have had such a brain explosion. Galloway takes great pride posting rubbish about how great he thinks he is to the marketing world; what he forgets to mention in his small man, puffed up resume is that this>> he is fond of demeaning and belittling students, which isn’t such a smart thing for someone who needs students and clients. Galloway comes off as a tired out OLD show pony whose arrogance made him think he is bullet proof. If he knew anything about digital marketing, he would know that in this day and age:::a**hole professors who attempt to bully and belittle students are quickly called out in digital social media! Welcome to the age of social media >>>dummy. Xxxx The world now knows that Scott Galloways marketing credentials are just as out dated as his weak attempt to properly deal and communicate with students. Universities need students, students don’t need universities. The products and brands that Galloway tries to pawn off need customers; customers don’t need products being flogged off by Scott Galloway. Due to Galloway’s arrogance, students from around the world are now starting a boycott towards any company or product associated with Galloway. Not such a smart move now is it? Times have changed and OLD arrogance has no place in them. XXXXXX

jennywine's picture
jennywine - Apr 11, 2013

Just flicking thought this link its says ::: lonely OLD, disillusioned, middle aged, no bodies wallowing in their out-dated dull vision of the world.
From a modern day perspective, kind of makes on think that Galloways immature action is a brain explosion and I wouldn’t want him in charge of my marketing and brand management. Yes a lot of cranky old people on this link will get all upset, but truth of the matter is this>>>marketers want dollars, most of your money will be stingy money, which is being saved for retirement, and as you age your dollar is worthless cause your loyalty to the brand is maybe 30 years left before you kick it and are buried away,,,and the brand can no longer collect money from you. As for students, we got a lot of years and money left on us to keep brands alive with brand loyalty. So OLD man Scotty shouldn’t be acting like such an a**hole cause the brands he represents need out loyalty and money!
Just to put it in perspective for you oldies xxxx Scott Galloway rates himself as a 'Clinical Professor' which is a fancy name created by insecure people to try and make themselves important in their meaningless academic lives. Xxxx Just for fun and to sound the opinion of international marketing students xxxx Galloway is supposedly a Marketing 'professor' at NYU Stern School of Business where he teaches Brand Strategy and Digital Marketing to second-year MBA students and is the 'author' of the very boring, pointless and meaningless book ‘Digital IQ Index, a global ranking of prestige brands' digital competence”>>> YAWN. Xxxx You give a monkey with a crack addiction a typewriter and it could have produced something more exciting and knowledgeable! If ‘Gagaway’ had any idea about digital, he wouldn’t have had such a brain explosion. Galloway takes great pride posting rubbish about how great he thinks he is to the marketing world; what he forgets to mention in his small man, puffed up resume is that this>> he is fond of demeaning and belittling students, which isn’t such a smart thing for someone who needs students and clients. Galloway comes off as a tired out OLD show pony whose arrogance made him think he is bullet proof. If he knew anything about digital marketing, he would know that in this day and age:::a**hole professors who attempt to bully and belittle students are quickly called out in digital social media! Welcome to the age of social media >>>dummy. Xxxx The world now knows that Scott Galloways marketing credentials are just as out dated as his weak attempt to properly deal and communicate with students. Universities need students, students don’t need universities. The products and brands that Galloway tries to pawn off need customers; customers don’t need products being flogged off by Scott Galloway. Due to Galloway’s arrogance, students from around the world are now starting a boycott towards any company or product associated with Galloway. Not such a smart move now is it? Times have changed and OLD arrogance has no place in them. XXXXXX

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David Spalding - Feb 26, 2010

"xxxx, let me be more serious for a moment. I do not know you, will not know you and have no real affinity or animosity for you. You are an anonymous student who is now regretting the send button on his laptop. It's with this context I hope you register pause...REAL pause xxxx and take to heart what I am about to tell you:"

Most people would neglect to include such a respectful and candid preamble. Hats off to the prof.

I'd say the kid owes this professor a complimentary latte for giving a much-needed lesson in perspective and decorum, for free. Sounds like the student thought he was entitled to treat classes like Golden Corral, and this prof held him to a higher standard. Get used to it, kid, there are higher and higher standards to measure up to, on your career path ahead.....

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Alannah Rosenberg - Feb 25, 2010

I am a community college professor who is now even more proud that her Ph.D. is from New York University. I am going to read Professor Gattoway's email to all my classes on the first day. I hope it will start a discussion about what they and I owe each other. The time spent then will, I hope, build a better learning community for the rest of the term. It is a pity, though, that this does have to be taught at this level.

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jennywine - Apr 11, 2013

Read that to your class and they will think you are a lonely OLD, disillusioned, middle aged, no body wallowing in their out-dated dull vision of the world and they will quickly un-enrol and join a more modern and exciting class! teachers who dont realize times have changed and who cant relate to students - need to retire.

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Sara Cannon - Feb 24, 2010

Good for the professor. My husband teaches at a community college and kids walk in and out at will, text, have long conversations with one another during class. Teachers have the right to respect during a class. They work hard to make classes interesting and challenging. The least students can do is show up on time and be interested. They sure are interested and alert when they don't like the grades they get.

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Tom Shillock - Feb 24, 2010

Assuming the accuracy of Gattoway’s description of the student’s evaluation procedure is accurate then, in my experience, this student demonstrated a level of intelligence I have come to expect from holders of MBA degrees. He should have interviewed the professors first, examined the materials to be used, and talked with former students.

That said, if Gattoway’s email accurately reflects his character as opposed to having a bad day then he is a supercilious prig. In any case, B-schools and their products, MBAs, are on balance scourges on business and should be taxed out of existence.

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M Rami - Feb 24, 2010

Perhaps the student thought he was doing some good "research." If that is the case, I suggest he add a course in "Research Methods" to his program of study. Of course, he has no program of study in the first place. Anyway, if the student wants to "sample" the three classes, he must get a prior consent of each of the three professors. No one is allowed to sit in a class without enrolling first, but of course, he clearly did not learn that during his undergraduate years.

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Patrick McCray - Feb 24, 2010

As a professor at a California research university, I have complete sympathy for the Galloway's actions. The sense of entitlement expressed by many students is at odds with the realities of the world. And the inability of far too many students to adhere to the basic norms and courtesies of the 21st century workplace - i.e. emails addressed to "hey prof!" - makes me wonder how they will fare in the all too real "real world."

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Hemant Bhana - Feb 24, 2010

I agree with this professor. As someone who has been laid off twice (and almost thrice) in the last 10 years due to the economy I fully appreciate the attributes of having a decent job.

At work, I am EXPECTED to arrive on time, organize my schedule, produce good quality work, and interact with a modicum of decorum.

Apparently this student had a sense of entitlement. Thankfully the professor set him straight.

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