Former NSA chief finds out what it's like to be spied on

Michael Hayden, former director of the National Security Agency

It's got all the ingredients of a political thriller movie. Two men sit on a train. One man, former political activist Tom Matzzie. Another, former head of the National Security Agency Michael Hayden. Hayden is giving anonymous quotes and off-the-record phone interviews to reporters about the country's spying habits. And Matzzie, the former Washington director of, is about to be famous... for tweeting about it. This all started on a northbound Amtrak Acela express train yesterday. When Matzzie peered behind him to check on a familiar voice...

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