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Less product, same price

Elinor Mantin shops for groceries at Lorenzo's Supermarket in North Miami, Fla.

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Kai Ryssdal: When you go to the market for a weekly groceries run, you can count on certain things. You buy a gallon of milk, you get a gallon. A pound of apples is a pound of apples. But, without peeking now, how many ounces are there in a box of Fruit Loops? How about a package of Dial soap? The answer is "less than there were before." Companies are reducing the weight of some of their products, yet charging the same amount. Is this a subtle way to raise prices? Yes, definitely. Is it deceptive? Perhaps. Marketplace's Sean Cole reports.


Sean Cole: The poster product for this phenomenon is Skippy peanut butter. The regular-sized jar looks the same as always, until you turn it upside down.

Frank Luby: The jar used to have a smooth bottom. It now has an indentation, which takes as couple of ounces of peanut butter out of the product.

Frank Luby is a marketing and pricing consultant for Simon Kucher & Partners in Cambridge, Mass. He says that big dimple in bottom of the Skippy jar...

Luby: Allows them to keep the same price point. But you get slightly less.

Cole: I guess my follow-up question to all of this is "What the hell?"

Luby: [Laughs]

Cole: Like is that OK?

Luby: To be perfectly honest, I think it is OK.

With the price commodities going up this year Luby says shrinking containers might be the lesser of three evils. The other two being cheaper ingredients, which would change the taste of your peanut butter, or alienating even the most loyal consumers with higher shelf prices. Now, Skippy is made by Unilever, a food conglomerate that also put a dent in the bottom of Hellmann's mayonnaise and shrank your carton of Breyer's ice cream. No one there would go on tape but when I raised the deception question, a spokesman said the new weight is clearly marked on the package. And Frank Luby says the per ounce and per pound labels on the grocery shelf really help.

Luby: So, yes, it's deceptive. But I think it would be even more deceptive if you didn't have that level playing field that's created by the per ounce comparisons, which we can take a close look at when we go to the supermarket.

The supermarket down the road from his office.

Luby: And I wanna go look a the box of Total.

Total cereal. His brand.

Luby: I grab this box and this is relatively thin.

Cole: It looks really thin.

Luby: It looks really thin.

Whereas the face of the box is as wide as always. General Mills, which makes Total, told me it only shrank down some of its cereal sizes -- that the smaller ones are now cheaper, and that this is old news. And as Luby and I were checking out that famous dent in the Skippy jar...

Cole: How deep is that would you say?

Luby: It's probably as deep as a fingernail.

We got kicked out of the store.

STORE MANAGER: OK I can't have you doing any recording in the store or filming without permission from headquarters.

Cole: OK. Do you mind if I buy these?

STORE MANAGER: You can buy 'em, yeah.

So I went to the check out counter with two boxes of Total and a jar of Skippy.

Cole: Oh. $11.27. Wow.

Way more than I thought it was going to cost.

Cole: I'm whipping out two more dollars here.

All the money in my wallet. And Luby says that proves the point.

Luby: You're going to remember that that cost more than you expected and that's going to stick with you. But the package sizes, to the extent that you knew them anyway before you started working on this story, will continue to fade.

But I'm not so sure. Because I went to another grocery store, bought a bunch of downsized items and did a little show and tell with folks in the parking lot. Peggy Pellegrino and her friend June Mackey were so mad about this issue you could barely understand them.

Cole: So you know about this?

June: Yeah.

Peggy: Of course we do.

Cole: Really?

June: We're shoppers.

Peggy: We're consumers.

It's disgusting, Peggy said. But is it deceptive, I said.

Peggy: Of course it's deceptive. They don't bring out a big ad and say we're going to charge you more or the same and give you two ounces less.

June: Not only that.

Peggy: They make you find out for yourself.

June: Not only that, it's harder to scrape it out at the bottom with the indented things.

Others in the parking lot had a different take. They said consumers have to watch out for themselves. But pretty much everyone said they'd rather just pay more for the original sized products.

Oh, and this radio story was reduced from four and a half minutes to 3:15, so -- in Boston I'm Sean Cole for Marketplace.

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betty norris - Aug 19, 2011

Bumble Bee Chunk White Albacore 5 oz can tuna packed in water is not white. not in chunks. not any good, in my opinion. Purchased four cans at either Kroger, HEB or Walmart in Houston. Opened one. This is a pink, shredded mess that even smells bad. To me this is false advertising.

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A.M. Kantola - May 24, 2011

I meant, thank goodness for law requiring larger retailers to label unit pricing.

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A.M. Kantola - May 24, 2011

As a careful shopper and consumer I have been fuming about this for a long time, because it's been occuring for many years. Tuna cans used to contain 7 oz. Boxes and plastic packaging are full of air. Tissue boxes are about an inch shorter. My toilet paper roll is at least 1 oz. lighter than it was two months ago. That's 12 oz. less per package at a slightly higher price. The dry goods can be deceptive, because the counts remain the same (1000 per roll; 240 per box, etc). I buy bulk whenever I can and think this packaging game is both wasteful and deceptive - thank goodness for law requiring large retailers to label in this way.

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Tor Hershman - Jan 7, 2011

Yep, last week I picked-up a couple of Charmin Ultra Soft 12 packs and this week I got a couple more just to keep wee stocked.
Anywho, long story short,
Last Week: 284.6 sq. ft.
This Week: 259.5 sq. ft.

Of course, this kind of crap can be
documented back to Archimedes’ time and NO DOUBT far before.
Welcome to the 21st century. . . . . BUT is it AD or BC?
*insert ominous music here*

Oh yeah, before we saw the story on the news, we noticed (a couple weeks ago) that a Red Baron pizza NOW fits into the little top oven WITHOUT needing to be split in two.

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Jeryl Stiles - May 20, 2009

I found a local eatery playing the same "trick" on customers. Acapulco in Lebanon is a place that I've eaten many meals. I usually get the same thing. For $7.50 3 soft taco's with rice and refried beans. Now the place charges teh "better price" of $6.50 for the "Taco's Al Pastor" but you have to buy the rice and beans separate at $1.95 each! So the "better" price on the entree actually costs $3.00 more to get what I had gotten before once I order the sides that came with the previous price!

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Scott Kraz - Apr 24, 2009

Not only are the jar dimples designed to waste food, but they take more packaging (surface area) for less food. Apparently heavier jars are cheaper than the real food. Commodity costs for more packaging and fuel for transport don't save as much money. Marketers need to be more efficient in package design if they want to avoid backlash.

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J C - Feb 11, 2009

Haagen-Dazs is reducing their ice cream. I guess a pint is now only 14 ozs. http://www.haagen-dazs.com/company/cartons.aspx

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Debbie Bader - Jan 12, 2009

The most blatant one to me is the "New" 8 pack of Pepsi 12 oz cans for the same price as the old 12 packs- and now I see Coke is following. That's a full 1/3 less for the same price not just a couple of ounces

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peggy pellegrino - Jan 9, 2009

I was recently interviewed about the deceptive advertising. I recently purchased BumbleBee Tuna on sale at CVS for 88cents now there's only 5ozs. So is that a bargain? Down from the original 6oz size just a few years.

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Tara Madison - Jan 9, 2009

I had been using a Unilever brand of women’s deodorant. Shopping recently at Target for the same brand, I noticed it now comes in “clinical strength,” which sells for about triple the price of regular strength. I compared the level of active ingredient in the new clinical strength to my old container of regular strength – it’s roughly the same. The new regular strength now contains less of the active ingredient than it once did. I switched to a Revlon brand that gave me the same level of active ingredient as the Unilever brand's clinical strength at a regular price.

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