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U.S.'s credit rating cut defies dire predictions

Traders monitor prices in the Standard & Poor's 500 stock index options pit at the Chicago Board Options Exchange (CBOE). A year after Standard & Poor’s cut the U.S. credit rating from AAA to AA, interest rates are lower than ever. Who made the right -- and wrong -- predictions?

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Tess Vigeland: It's been about year since the twin fiascos of the debt ceiling debate and the subsequent Standard and Poor's downgrade of this country's credit rating. You remember: No more AAA, only AA+.

It was, indeed, historic. And forecasters in business and politics made dire predictions about how the downgrade would whack your wallet.

But it didn't exactly turn out that way, did it? We're now in an Olympiad, so we asked Marketplace's Mark Garrison to host a little medal ceremony for the best and worst downgrade predictions.


Mark Garrison: As far as worst predictions, it would take a medal stand the size of a swimming pool to hold all the people who were wrong. But we’ve only got room for one, so the gold goes to Republican Congressman Paul Ryan, speaking on Fox just after the downgrade.

Paul Ryan: Obviously, not only does it hurt the federal government in its ability to close the deficits, but it hurts people. You know, car loans, home loans, all these things are gonna go up.

Didn’t happen. In fact, the opposite occurred. Home loan interest rates are now at record lows, in large part because global investors kept faith that America would always pay its debts.

But not to pick on Ryan or Republicans. Plenty of Democrats were wrong too. Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said several times that a downgrade would never happen, until it did. But then he got something right, speaking to CNBC.

Timothy Geithner: The judgment by S&P changed nothing, added nothing to what people know about this country.

That proved true, but it’s not good enough for a gold medal for best prediction. That goes to Legg Mason fund manager Bill Miller, who appeared on the same show where Congressman Ryan got it wrong a year ago.

Bill Miller: Contrary to what I think people may expect, I don't expect we'll pay more for interest rates. The downgrade was not an economic event. It was a symbolic and psychological event.

Miller wasn’t a lone voice. At the time, Warren Buffett said the U.S. should be upgraded to AAAA, a rating which doesn’t actually exist. Investors who followed that advice made money.

The Olympics were born in Greece, so let’s give a special medal to Europe. Cary Leahey at Decision Economics explains why.

Cary Leahey: The U.S. is not doing well, but it’s doing better, much better than Europe.

All the recent turmoil in the eurozone actually made the U.S. economy look like a safe place to invest.

In New York, I'm Mark Garrison for Marketplace.

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Mark Garrison is a reporter for Marketplace and substitute host for the Marketplace Morning Report, based in New York.
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deisner - Aug 13, 2012

If Ryan was unaware of the Fed's actions, it would have to be because he didn't pick up the newspaper. More importantly, the Quantitative Easing story might be convincing if not for the fact that when QE2 ended, interest rates went down, not up (as many were direly predicting). Here is the yield on the 10-year treasury note since January 1, 2010. Looking only at the graph, see if you can tell when QE2 ended: http://goo.gl/6BP0F

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SoquelCreek - Aug 12, 2012

Paul Ryan and others may not have been aware of the actions behind the scenes.

Beginning in roughly October 2010, the United States Federal Reserve purchased roughly $1 TRILLION in U.S. states public debt. The purchases flattened out just before the debt ceiling debates.

Naturally, the Federal Reserve paid for all this debt using shiny, newly-manufactured zeroes that they added to the end of their existing account values. With all this debt purchased, it left plenty of room for other foreign buyers to purchase our debt, because we're just that awesome.

You can read more about it here, with links to the source documents at the Federal Reserve. The chart is staggering.

"United States Federal Reserve Buys Nearly $1 TRILLION in U.S. Treasury Securities Over One Year Period"
http://soquelbythecreek.blogspot.com/2012/02/united-states-federal-reser...

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Vendent - Aug 7, 2012

Poorly created story. There was no mention of the Fed's actions. What would of occurred if there was no QE1 or QE2? You can't go back to what people said when the Fed continues to change the reality of the crisis. Seriously, how did we get in debt up to our butts? Saving the economy from doom, maybe?

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sdbreton - Aug 6, 2012

THANK YOU for following up on the predictions of pundits and politicians. THIS is the need in journalism today. I shouldn't have to wach The Daily Show to see this kind of accountability of opinion-people in the media. Your story and this piece about environmental editiorial-writing in the WSJ have been my news highlights of the past month: http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/08/02/the-wall-street-journal-dism...