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Reich: Debating America's future

Robert Reich

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KAI RYSSDAL: We air commentaries on a fairly regular basis. Points of view on one topic or another. We set aside two minutes of the show every Wednesday for our regulars. Robert Reich and, until last week, David Frum. David's decided he's not the best person for us anymore.

Bob uses his time today to respond.


ROBERT REICH: Last week, David Frum, who alternates Wednesday commentaries with me, called it quits as a regular commentator. He explained he could no longer represent the views of most people who call themselves Republicans and conservatives.

I respect David's decision but it's a sad commentary (no pun intended) on what's happening to public discourse in America.

Why exactly was it necessary for David to "represent" the views of conservative Republicans? I don't feel any obligation to represent liberal Democrats. Over the years I've argued, for example, in favor of getting rid of the corporate income tax, and creating school vouchers inversely related to family incomes. And I'm opposed to putting trade sanctions on China for so-called currency manipulation. None of these positions represents liberal democratic orthodoxy.

The public doesn't want or need to hear "representatives" from the so-called right or left. It wants insight into what's best for America. And yet over and over again -- on the radio, on TV, in print, in the blogosphere, and all over Washington -- political ideology is substituting for thought. Politicians take oaths and sign pledges. Special-interest groups abide by litmus tests and ideological labels. Pundits are either on the left or the right.

David says he disagrees with most Republicans these days about whether now's the time to cut public spending and shred safety nets. Well, it so happens a majority of economic policy experts also think now's not the right time.

David's voice will be sorely missed. Yet I understand his dilemma. Introducing him last week, Kai Ryssdal said David has been a regular commentator on this program for years, offering the voice of the political right against Robert Reich and the views of the political left.

Kai, my friend, that's the problem in a nutshell. Labels like this fuel what's happening all over America right now. We're getting empty phrases and unthinking ideology instead of arguments, facts, and logic. We're either on the right or the left, and we don't have to listen to anyone on the other side.


RYSSDAL: Robert Reich teaches public policy at the University of California, Berkeley. His most recent book is called "Aftershock: The Next Economy and America's Future." Send us your thoughts about what you hear on the broadcast -- write to us.

About the author

Robert Reich is chancellor's professor of public policy at the University of California, Berkeley. He has served in three national administrations, most recently as secretary of labor under President Bill Clinton.

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James Ivey - Oct 19, 2011

Honestly, I still can't believe that Marketplace had a blogger and former speech writer (essentially a propagandist) balancing a professor of economics and public policy. Is Marketplace about economics or politics? No offense to Mr. Frum (who is likable), but if you can't find a better proponent of the economic policies of the political right than a blogger and ex-propagandist, perhaps those policies don't belong in a program about economics.

Dr. Reich is right; this show should be about economics, not politics. If you can't find a respected economist of comparable caliber to disagree with him on economic issues, perhaps that should tell you something.

Honestly, I love the show -- subscribe to the podcast and everything. But I'm increasingly concerned that the idea that deregulation and lower taxes are the way to fix the economy is still treated as a legitimate economic theory. Have you guys forgotten 2007-08 already?

Thanks for listening....

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Katherine Fairchild - Oct 19, 2011

I was shocked to hear he resigned. Much less that he had agreed with the safety net. This time is so divisive that the three monkeys is appropriate analogy. While We the People, are being held hostage. Occupy Wall Street will come to a critical mass. I wonder how this will effect our two part system.

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Tom Walters - Oct 19, 2011

Bob, Your logic is sorely obsolete. No one today wants to hear an intelligent discussion of the issues. We only want to hear the echo chamber that resonates our singular biases.

While I understand your disdain for “labels”, I still envy Marketplace in their (I hope) upcoming quest to find a reasonable voice to “counter” yours. I’m sure they’ll feel obligated to find someone who’s on “the other side” of whatever side you’re on, rather than someone of similar reason such as David. There don’t seem to be too many such “representatives” on that “other side” – the exact reason David felt a need to quit.

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Gavin Engel - Oct 19, 2011

"We're either on the right or the left, and we don't have to listen to anyone on the other side."

I believe you are stuck in 20th century politics, sir. I really think you need to step away from your comfortable viewpoints in order to analyze the growing movements of today.

Specifically, you say:
"Labels like this fuel what's happening all over America right now."

I assume you are referring to the OWS and Tea Party movements. You are painting this landscape with only 2 colors: red and blue. That reminds me of the lives of the inhabitants of Flatland who can only see two dimensions.

What is the third dimension? Libertarianism. Dr. Ron Paul has unleashed a wave of ideas that are adding a new dimension to old politics. Look at a Nolan Chart and you can see what I mean. The Tea Parties and Occupy movements in the US are basically Republican and Democrats shifted towards Libertarianism. Seeing these movements on a simple left-right chart is not seeing the real picture.

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