What it's like to walk away from a house

Bill Sawyer walked away from his condo a year and a half ago. Now he rents an apartment in Wilsonville, Ore.

Tess Vigeland: We talked earlier with a couple who decided not to walk away from their mortgage despite owing more than their property is worth. But for tens of thousands of people the American Dream of home ownership ended when they handed the keys over to the bank -- and said goodbye. There have been dire warnings about financial lives crashing and burning for years on end after home owners walk away. We wondered what the reality looks like.


Jon Wittenberg: I'm gonna play you something that's appropriate to the occasion.

Jon Wittenberg is 42 years old. He walked away from his condo a year and a half ago.

Wittenberg: A little Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young: "This old house of ours is built on dreams. And a businessman don't know what that means. There's a garden outside she works in every day. And tomorrow morning, the man from the bank's gonna come and take it all away."

In the middle part of the last decade, the pharmaceutical company Wittenberg worked for moved him from Boulder, Colo., to Agoura Hills, Calif.

Wittenberg: There was a lot of pressure at the time to buy houses in Southern California. Everybody was making tons of money. And my company had a relocation expert who said to me, "I'm almost going to have to insist that you buy a property." So I did. I bought a fixer-upper for $450,000 in April of 2006.

Wittenberg put 20 percent down on a 30-year fixed mortgage -- and spruced up the two-story condo himself. A year and a half later, he was laid off. He got a new job with a renewable-energy company in San Francisco. So he turned the condo into a rental and headed north. But tenants kept demanding lower and lower rents, until he had a shortfall of more than $1,000 between the rental income and his mortgage payment. And by 2009, comparable homes in Agoura were selling for almost $100,000 less than what he owed on the property. He tried to get the bank to modify his loan, to no avail. So with the help of a company called YouWalkAway.com, he stopped paying his mortgage.

Wittenberg: We looked at how much my home was underwater, how much money I've lost thus far, and how much money I will continue to lose until I start to break even. That could be 20 years away, I mean it's not going to recover that quickly. It was a no-brainer. It became a business decision.

YouWalkAway.com's Chief Executive Jon Maddux says that's how it should be -- a no-brainer -- for the 11 million people who are underwater on their mortgages.

Jon Maddux: A lot of our clients are people who have never been late on anything in their life. And now it's this massive thing that they're going to default on and it goes against everything they've ever known. But I think as more and more people know someone that's done it, it's something that people are accepting.

Jon Wittenberg knew that a default on his home loan could spell doom for his credit score, which he says was in the low-to-mid 700s. The bigger question was: What would happen to the rest of his financial life?

Wittenberg: Am I gonna have to pay this back? What are these banks capable of doing to me? So here I am -- I'm probably upper-middle class, I have two degrees and here I am, I'm stuck.

He won't have to pay it back -- because California is what's called a "non-recourse state." The bank cannot come after mortgage holders when they walk away. As for his credit score? Fair Isaac released a study earlier this year showing the average FICO score drops around 100 points in a foreclosure, which is how walkaways are classified.

The bigger surprise, according to YouWalkAway.com, is that many of its clients are finding their scores begin to recover within a few months. The impact so far for Wittenberg? Well, there hasn't been any. He lives in his girlfriend's house north of San Francisco. So he didn't have to worry about a landlord checking his credit. And he says he's done with debt forever.

Wittenberg: I don't have a credit card. I don't have a car payment. I don't have anything. I live in a cash world, and I want to keep it that way.

That's not to say he hasn't paid a price. He lost his entire down payment and drained a significant portion of his savings account to make up for that monthly rental shortfall. But he hasn't checked his FICO score -- and he doesn't want or intend to. What saddens him most is the loss of the condo he would have held onto, but for the math.

Wittenberg: There is a pride of ownership. It's nice to own your own castle.

And it may be quite some time before he is a king again.

Bill Sawyer: OK, so I'm doing my FICO score.

Six hundred miles north in the rural community of Wilsonville, Ore., 50-year-old Bill Sawyer sits at a laptop in his apartment, punching in his Social Security number at MyFico.com.

Sawyer: OK, so we gotta type in a profile here.

Vigeland: I promise I won't watch your Social Security number.

Sawyer: OK. You can take my credit if you like. Don't know if you'd want my identity.

Last he knew, as of a couple of years ago, his credit score was in the low 700s. But that was before he walked away from a small townhouse in nearby West Linn. He bought it a decade ago for $138,000. Over the next few years, its appraised value nearly doubled. And the bank let him borrow money twice against the house.

Sawyer: They just crunched the numbers like a car salesman might. And, you know, you sign the dotted line and this is what I need to pay every month and this is what I get.

Sawyer, who works as an operations and policy analyst for the state, used the money to pay down other debts -- including credit cards and a car loan.

Then in 2007, tragedy struck. His 18-year-old son Daniel was killed in an auto accident. Aside from the emotional and psychological devastation, the accident sent Bill Sawyer into a financial tailspin.

Sawyer: There were some financial hardships that kind of started a chain reaction, you know, with a maxed-out credit card and a line of credit through my bank. When you have a limited income, and you make minimum payments, well that debt just keeps going.

Then, on top of everything, the housing market collapsed. And he owed more than his home was worth. He tried to negotiate for a loan modification. After that fruitless effort, he abandoned the property in March of this year -- also with the help of YouWalkAway. But he had not wanted to check what that has done to his credit scores.

Sawyer: I'm holding on tight. Oh my gosh. Never has it been that low. TransUnion 535. Equifax 520.

Vigeland: Are you surprised?

Sawyer: I'm not shocked by it, no. You know, but it hurts. You work your whole life establishing a reputation with your credit. Pretty much start over from the bottom of the barrel now.

It's not the bottom of the barrel, but it is close. And it was made worse by a bankruptcy filing over the summer. Sawyer made sure to get his current apartment before moving out of the townhouse just in case landlords were scared away by a low score. But if he ever has to move, he knows the walk-away could make everything more difficult. For now, he feels relief.

Sawyer: We were happy in that home. I didn't see any other way to resolve this matter without pretty much putting money down the drain for years to come. I made the decision.

And it was the best decision, he says, for him and his 23-year-old daughter Vanessa -- who lives with Sawyer. His financial recovery appears to have started already. Sawyer was approved last month for a $300-limit credit card through Capital One, which he plans to pay off each month in an effort to repair his score.

Sawyer: I'm not looking to buy another house. Probably ever. I'm going to live within my means and kind of start from scratch.

They key is that he was able to start from scratch.

About the author

Tess Vigeland is the host of Marketplace Money, where she takes a deep dive into why we do what we do with our money.
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If it was indeed Supreme Court Janet Reno or other Supreme Court justices who created this whole mess then I virtually have no problem with anyone in a hardship situation who walks away from the trouble this (these) justices have created. My understanding is that the Supreme Court justices are immune from prosecution. A decision like this should have consequences to the one(s) who fueled the engine of disaster.

I heard that this whole housing industry fiasco can be linked to Supreme Court Justice Janet Reno. My understanding is that she demanded that the lenders in USA give loans to those who would otherwise not qualify. Can anyone verify the accuracy of this statement? If so, how has she been affected by the loss of homes, jobs and hope that so many people face?

You are incorrect regarding recourse in California. The lender or servicer has the option to either 1) take the property via foreclosure or 2) sue the debtor for the balance of the loan. Not many people realize that if you walk away from a property, the lender or servicer doesn't have to take the property back. If you have the ability to pay or any tangible assets, it may be in the best interest of the lender or servicer to sue you, get a judgment and garnish your wages. Your best option is to work directly with your lender or servicer, no matter what you choose to do and to attempt a short sale first before walking away.

In reference to your story where a guest commented "a person has no moral obligation to pay their mortgage... it's just a contractual obligation under the law." A contract is by definition two parties giving their word to one another, in this case a homeowner agrees to pay funds under a stipulated agreement for the privilege of buying a home with barrow money. With this logic your employer has no moral obligation to pay your agreed upon wage for work you completed, military members have no moral obligation to their oath to defend this country, and spouses' have no obligation to be faithful to one another after marriage. Without the moral obligation society as a whole falls apart. Wait that sounds a lot like were we are to day with the loss of morals in America.

I also heard the story of the financial advisor from Las Vegas. I won't use this comment as a soap box to rail against the fed or anybody else, but I have a question. The guy says he tapped his equity to fund his business, then walked away leaving the banks to take a hit of more than $200k. That cannot be the whole story, Nevada is a recourse state, the money he borrowed against equity becomes an unsecured loan after foreclosure and the bank has every right to come after him for it. Did he go bankrupt? I did not hear about that part. Chapter 7 Bankruptcy these days is pretty difficult. I would like to hear the rest of this.

I heard the story about the couple from Las Vegas who were under water in their mortgage. I have a few things to say. The comment regarding this crisis being the fault of the banks means that this gentleman is drinking the president's Kool-Aid. The root cause of this crisis was caused by our Federal Government over the course of the past 3 administrations. The bank didn't hold a gun to his head to put no money down on the house and didn't do the same to make him take out a home equity line of credit. Also, people ought to put things in perspective. A house is like any other investment; you can make money or you can lose money. Do you hear people complain about an even worse investment, that being their automobiles? A couple each buying $35K cars every 5 years over the course of their lifetime could easily lose $500,000, much more the $200,000 this couple was under water.

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