15

The mortgage-modification scam

A sign in the sales office of a company called U.S. Foreclosure Relief. It says "Numbers don't lie ... people lie!" Someone wrote on it: "And sales people"

To view this content, Javascript must be enabled and Adobe Flash Player must be installed.

Get Adobe Flash player

TEXT OF STORY

Kai Ryssdal: Every crisis brings with it new business opportunities. Not all of those businesses, unfortunately, are on the up and up.

21st Century: You have reached 21st Century Legal Services. If you know your parties' extension, you may enter it at any time.

21st Century Legal Services is what's called a mortgage-modification company. It promises to help homeowners who are in over their heads renegotiate their loans. After they pay big fees, upfront.

21st Century: It's a wonderful day at 21st Century. How may I help you?

Joanna Williams: Yes, good afternoon. My name is Joanna Williams. And I saw your site on the Internet.

That woman's name isn't really Joanna Williams. She's an undercover investigator at the North Carolina attorney general's office. And the tape you're hearing is part of a sting they were running. They were looking into companies that are ripping off desperate homeowners and then disappearing.

Paul Kiel at ProPublica, the investigative newsroom, got the tape for us as part of our joint investigation into mortgage-modification scams.

From Washington, Marketplace's Steve Henn picks up the story.


STEVE HENN: Federal, state and local law enforcement have filed more than 150 suits against mortgage-modification firms. But the companies keep popping up. As the story of 21st Century shows, anything short of forcibly shutting them down can be ineffective.

Williams: Hello?

Mr. Parker: Are you a homeowner?

Williams: Yes. I'm a home owner.

Mr. Parker: Are you interested in cutting your payment down?

Williams: Yes.

Salesmen here live on commission.

Mr. Parker: This is 21st Century Legal Services. Our attorney can get you 3.5-4 percent, 30-year fix. Does that sound good?

Williams: Of course, it... Wait a minute, 3.5 to 4 percent fixed?

Mr. Parker: Yes, 30-year-fixed or whatever kind of fix you need.

Three-and-a-half percent? That's a too-good-to-be-true interest rate. And the salesman hadn't even asked her name. But at 21st Century, promises like this are routine. The only catch is a big fee -- upfront.

When Williams said she couldn't afford that, the salesman suggested she stop paying her mortgage. After all, it would make it easier to pay him.

Mr. Parker: But it looks better. Because when they see that you're behind, you're falling behind. You understand what I'm saying?

Williams:Yeah.

Mr. Parker:That looks better on you.

That advice -- stop paying your mortgage -- has ended with many of 21st Centuries' clients facing foreclosure. And because of that many states, including California, ban these kinds of upfront fees. But that hasn't stopped 21st Century Legal Services from collecting them.

Mr. Parker: We're in Rancho Cucamonga, Calif. We have four offices out here, we're opening up a fifth. We have been doing this for years.

Actually, 21st Century was founded less than a year ago by Andrea Ramirez. She's a former mortgage broker with a record of selling exotic loans her clients can't afford.

But she's moved on. Ramirez now generates fees by promising to fix the kinds of mortgage nightmares she helped create.

TOM MCNAMARA: It's the flip side of the mortgage-brokerage business.

Tom McNamara is an attorney in San Diego. He worked as a court appointed receiver with the Federal Trade Commission, and helped shut down a similar firm.

MCNAMARA: What I found, which was relatively interesting, is that most of the folks who were doing these were mortgage brokers.

McNamara says they're boiler room operations.

MCNAMARA: As soon as the caller called in, it was a really hard sell. It was to scare the daylights out of the homeowner, and they were pretty good about it.

And this industry is booming. In the past year more than 800 mortgage-modification firms have set up shop in Southern California alone.

Law-enforcement officials believe most of these are violating the law.

JERRY Brown: This is a very big scam.

California Attorney General Jerry Brown.

Brown: In terms of overt violation of the criminal and civil law, these so-called loan-modification companies, they take the prize.

But Brown compares enforcement efforts to playing whack-a-mole.

Brown: We are shutting them down, and they open up.

Firms change names, change locations and get back in businesses. But 21st Century Legal Services stands out.

Its founder, Ramirez, was convicted in 2008 of forging prescriptions for OxyContin. And that could soon cost her her real-estate license.

Customers have filed more complaints against this company with the Better Business Bureau than any other similar firm in Southern California. More than 150 complaints from at least 30 states.

State officials in Arkansas, Indiana, Ohio, and North Carolina have sued the firm, barring it from doing business within their borders. Other states have open investigations.

But the company hasn't stopped making calls like this one...

Mr. Parker: All that stuff on the news about fraudulent companies asking for money upfront is a bunch of garbage. OK. We ask for a percentage upfront because it's a retainer fee for our attorney for representation.

Company officials didn't respond to Marketplace's calls. And 21st Century's attorney hasn't responded to suits or letters from legal authorities from at least six states. Instead the company changed its name to Fidelity National Legal Services. And it's still in business.

In Washington, I'm Steve Henn for Marketplace.

RYSSDAL: Thanks to Paul Kiel at ProPublica for his help with that story.

About the author

Steve Henn was Marketplace’s technology and innovation reporter for the entire portfolio of Marketplace programs until December 2011.

Pages

bernice sandoval's picture
bernice sandoval - Mar 31, 2011

if anyone knows if im still able to be part of the suit against this woman and her company let me know... i pray she can be stoped.. this is an aweful thing.. my children overall have been very affected.. this happened 2009 and till this day they ask me to drive by "their house".. its very heart breakin

bernice sandoval's picture
bernice sandoval - Mar 31, 2011

She is also known as Andrea Parker or Angie Parker

bernice sandoval's picture
bernice sandoval - Mar 31, 2011

I lost my home in 2009..actually my home was sold n i got a notice..me and my 5 children were basically homeless.. I thought i personally knew Andrea Ramirez, Never thought she would do this to me... She was a patient w her kids n family members at my job(Doctor's office)... I wondered why she was moving offices frequently, but never imagined.. Some of her previous employees have opened there own Mortgage business as well and I wonder if they are coning more people..

Gloria Smith's picture
Gloria Smith - Nov 20, 2009

I was hired as a notary via the internet service to do an application here locally. I was trying to collect my fee and discovered the scam. I called the other party and was told she had put stop payment on her checks when she got a bad feeling about her contact. I guess I am out my fee.

Legal Liason's picture
Legal Liason - Oct 26, 2009

Andrea Ramirez is a scam artist. She is known as Angie Ramirez, Andrea Rodriguez, Angie Rodriguez, among 14 other aliases.

Cay Ess's picture
Cay Ess - Oct 18, 2009

This is a very unfortunate situation as such companies sprout taking advantage of the troubled home owners. I've been talking to a lot of people and trying to share the word not to get into such traps. I've further expressed my thoughts on my blog. If interested, check it out - http://cayess.blogspot.com/

Beth Sherwood's picture
Beth Sherwood - Sep 30, 2009

Andrea Ramirez, Ruby Encina, Mindy Holt, sales agents licensed under Andrea, Mindy, Chris George and Jerry George are all inter-twined. Follow the licenses, business addresses, the mortgage business Fidelity Financial and let's see how many people have horror stories.

Paul Molinaro, Esq.'s picture
Paul Molinaro, Esq. - Sep 26, 2009

Consumers, this is no time to be lazy or act out of desperation... do your homework... research any firm or business whether profit or none before trusting them to help you. No one will care as much about your home as you. Ask your friends, read as much as you can, and before you hire anyone... even an attorney (and you can imagine I am a fan of hiring attorneys) VISIT the office and MEET the ATTORNEY FACE 2 FACE... or at least make sure to research and talk on the phone if you are just too far away.

And now for the attorney advertisement plug... if you've been scammed, contact a local attorney to see if you can get your money back and save your home.

- Paul

gb gb's picture
gb gb - Sep 25, 2009

In the first place mortgage modification program itself is a scam. It is scam to steal tax payers money to bail out orginal scammers i.e speculators/irresponsible people who participated in the realestate bubble.

walter k's picture
walter k - Sep 25, 2009

21st Century Legal Services aka Fidelity National Legal Services aka East Coast Management owned by Andrea Rameriz, Chris George, Jerry George Rancho Cucamonga CA 91730
A unnamed investigator estimates that these people have scammed distressed homeowners nationwide out of over $60 million since August 2008. Banks used included Union Bank of California, PFF and US Bank.
They are also investigating Jerry George, who owns a ocean boat, in stashing money off shore.

Pages