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Taxpayers aren't getting a "refund"

When you hear about banks like Goldman Sachs returning their TARP money, you might think that means the taxpayer is getting something like a refund. Or that those funds will go to reducing the government's bailout debt. No. In fact, it may mean the government will spend more money.

Clusterstock explains it this way:

You see, returned TARP funds become part of the general revenue of the federal government. The money is treated just like money paid by taxpayers. It simply becomes part of the income of the government that will be spent by politicians and bureaucrats. There's no lockbox or segregated fund. It works just like Social Security taxes: the income just gets spent for whatever the government decides to spent money on.

Not only that, but when banks pay back their money, that increases the amount available in the TARP fund. The $700 billion is the maximum amount that can be outstanding at any one time.

Right now about $134.5 billion remains out of the original $700 billion. When Goldman repays the its $10 billion TARP funding, that amount will grow to $144.5 billion.

Which means the government can give it to another bank (or insurance company).

It doesn't go back to the taxpayer. Of course, you weren't taxed in order to create the $700 billion either. Not yet anyway.

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Tom's picture
Tom - Apr 15, 2009

"Back Off" That was the response from someone at the American Enterprise Institute. In my mind it is an atrocity that argueably the most prestigious bank in the country, Goldman Sachs
needed bailout money in the FIRST place!
Greed, dishonesty, incompetence; call it what you like, these bums need to be regulated by the governemt until it is in the best interest of the taxpayers to do otherwise.
Tough Sh....
Maybe AEI should back off, or get real!

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Bob - Apr 15, 2009

The Link to Brad Sherman's site regarding people who are owed taxes is what I was looking for also. Did I miss it? What is the address? Let me know. Thanks, Bob Mack

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Scott Jagow - Apr 15, 2009

Here's the link to Sherman's site:

http://www.house.gov/sherman/resources/tax.shtml

It only lists California residents, since he's a California congressman.

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elena - Apr 15, 2009

Please post a national website. I do not live in California.

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Scott Jagow - Apr 15, 2009

Elena, there isn't one, as far as I know. This was just a California Congressman who provided this information on his own website, dug up by his own staff. Here's the Marketplace story about it from this morning:

http://tinyurl.com/cdzfbg

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Katy - Apr 15, 2009

Isn't there supposed to be a link here to the website listing those who are owed returns ans stimulus packages? What is it?