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Kai Ryssdal: It has been a while since we hauled this one out, but today's economic news comes with the welcome preface of better-than-expected. And it comes in two flavors too: The trade deficit was down in July. We're selling more stuff overseas than we have been. Back home, new claims for unemployment benefits fell last week, as well.

Marketplace's Mitchell Hartman reports the job market does appears to be emerging from hibernation ever so slowly.


Mitchell Hartman: The average number of new unemployment claims has actually been on the decline ever since mid-August, when it peaked. So it's probably a good bet the labor market really is on the mend, says Nigel Gault at IHS Global Insight.

Nigel Gault: It looks as though claims that hit 500,000 a few weeks ago are now gradually on their way down.

But here's the thing: Gault says economists want to see claims fall much more before they declare this a strong jobs recovery. Instead, one year after the economy started growing again, unemployment remains high. And companies are adding jobs very slowly -- less than 100,000 a month.

But at least that's better than we did after the recession of 2001.

Gault: It took almost two years for the economy to actually start to create jobs again.

After the 1990s recession, the "jobless recovery" was just about as bad.

But there is a big difference, says economist James Galbraith at the University of Texas.

James Galbraith: In this Great Recession, we lost over eight million jobs -- more than twice what we lost in the previous two recessions. And so this is just a much deeper hole, and that's the problem.

A problem, says Galbraith, because job growth would need to be phenomenal -- double or triple the current rate for years -- just to backfill the hole. And he's not optimistic employers will step up.

Galbraith: A great many firms cut their costs and their labor forces really drastically. Having done that, they're very reluctant to take workers back. In fact, they find ways to achieve the same results with fewer workers.

And as long as companies keep chasing increased productivity so hard, it's unlikely they'll add enough jobs to take a big bite out of unemployment.

I'm Mitchell Hartman for Marketplace.

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Joe Smith's picture
Joe Smith - Feb 8, 2011

The 'Lame Duck' congress went out of it's way to excluse the 99ers from the unemployment benefits extension. The 99ers only sin was being amogn the first to get laid off. There were about 15,000,000 people collecting benefits in October, 2010. There still are. That is because 99ers are rolling off unemployment but are being replaced by newly laid off workers. Unfortunately, the 99ers have just had their financial carotid artery severed by those who are SUPPOSED to represent THEM.

In the meantime, conservatives who have benefited from this recession wrap their corruption and immorality in the flag and present it as patriotism. The ignorant among us buy into that crap and the unemployed REMAIN unemployed - perhaps forever.

The truth is that there aren't 15,000,000 jobs out trhere - of ANY kind - for those unemployed people and there never will be.

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Jimmy Chooooo - Sep 10, 2010

For those that cannot grasp progress that is happening.

Seasonally Adjusted Initial Claims for Unemployment Insurance:

Sept 4th, 2010: 451,000
Sept 4th, 2009: 556,000

Aug 21st, 2010: 473,000
Aug 21st, 2009: 567,000

Aug 14th, 2010: 500,000
Aug 14th, 2009: 575,000

June 19th, 2010: 457,000
June 19th, 2009: 613,000

May 15th, 2010: 471,000
May 15th, 2009: 625,000

source:
http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/eta/ui/current.htm

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Gregg Henton - Sep 10, 2010

I can't for the life of me see how "only" 450,000 new jobless claims is any kind of a sign that the economy is improving, bottoming-out, or whatever euphimism you want to apply. Business is figuring out how to do more with less (read people) and the prevailing Catch-22 will continue to be a drag on the economy and job markets ala Mr. Roubini of RGE.

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Everett McKay - Sep 9, 2010

Throughout this recession, we've received a steady diet of news articles that say "yes, the job market is lousy, but today's data shows a glimmer of hope that things are finally starting to improve," only to retract it when the next bit of data comes out. Enough with the glimmer articles already! Your quota for this recession is all used up.

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Rob Perhamus - Sep 9, 2010

Why won't we simply talk about the aging populations, with fewer younger people left to pay the cost of older people, who live much longer? Why is spending lower? Why are people saving more? Will a person approaching retiring, start spending again? Not likely.