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Taxing bonuses could slow economy

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Kai Ryssdal: Tomorrow will find Secretary Geithner back up on Capitol Hill having a chat with the House Financial Services Committee. Members will be interested to find out what he knows about AIG's bonus payouts and when he knew it.

Today Senate majority leader Harry Reid said he would give Republicans in that chamber some time to chew over proposals to tax back some of those bonuses. Whatever Congress and the president do wind up doing could have big implications, not just for the bank bailout, but potentially for the whole economy. From New York, Ashley Milne-Tyte has that story.


ASHLEY MILNE-TYTE: It could be several weeks before the Senate votes on a bill to tax bonuses. Frank Partnoy teaches law and finance at the University of San Diego. He's says it's unlikely the Senate will pass a bill anywhere near as punitive as the House version.

FRANK PARTNOY: I think the House helped all of us express our collective anger about the AIG bonuses. But I think they're creating a lot of tension and some headaches for the Obama administration.

Banks and other firms might decide to reject government money. And if they don't take that money, they can't turn around and lend it to consumers and businesses. Charles Elson of the University of Delaware says there's also a danger that legislation like this could make the U.S. a less attractive place to do business.

CHARLES ELSON: We've always been viewed as a nation of laws, a stable nation of laws. And when we start using the legal system, the tax system, to punish people, I think you do run the risk of creating a debilitating effect on our reputation globally and making it a lot harder to attract capital.

Right now he says the U.S. needs capital like never before. President Obama seemed anxious to calm things down yesterday when he said it's a mistake to govern out of anger. Doug Muzzio teaches public affairs at Baruch College in New York. He says it's hard to predict how the White House will weigh in.

DOUG MUZZIO: This is a play without any script. We're improving all the way through, everybody -- the director, the producers, the actors, and nobody's quite sure how to do it.

He says anyone putting on a production wants to know what the audience thinks. But one criticism of this show is that its producers are pandering too much to the public.

In New York, I'm Ashley Milne-Tyte for Marketplace.

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Carolynn Gockel - Mar 27, 2009

Rita,

Thank you for an amazing comment. Thank you for taking time out of your day to share your opinions/experience here.

Carolynn Gockel

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Rita McGrath - Mar 25, 2009

Daniel Webster, in the formative years of our nation, famously said, "the power to tax is the power to destroy" an idea which has informed legal opinion for over 200 years. There are many ways in which populist outrage can be expressed. Retroactively deploying the power to tax in an arbitrary manner should not be one of them.

At Columbia Business School, I teach executives that symbols (such as a big bonus amidst a bailout, or corporate jets ferrying executives to ask for handouts) have meaning beyond their inherent substance. I caution them that to counter a symbolic problem, you have to take on the meaning. You'll never succeed arguing substance ("these are binding contracts; we need these people; these guys weren't the ones at fault") when the real problem is a problem of emotional meaning. You need an emotional response that defuses the characteristics of this mess and meets the public where it lives. You could, for instance, have promoted these folks at the time the bonuses were agreed to as members of a financial SWAT team, whose compensation would be tied directly to progress in unwinding the poor positions, making them champions for the public rather than scapegoats for populist frustration. Maybe they could have had special outfits or other totems that positioned them in a more heroic light. In this economic climate, everything you do as a leader has symbolic fallout. Far better to consider and defuse beforehand than try to argue 'just the facts' afterward.

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Jose Rey - Mar 23, 2009

The United States should be a Nation where powers are not abused, but we shouldn't be a nation of crooks either.

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RC Brooks - Mar 23, 2009

Pandering too much to the public? Really? It seems painfully obvious that too many people think that the government is a tool of industry.

Of course it should pander to the public. We are not only the force behind the government, but also the source of corporate income.

Capitalism has been out of control in America. There needs to be more a conscious in corporate America.

Why don't we learn from the past and make our greed a lot more reasonable before we plunder ourselves into socialism?