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TARP payback raises more questions

Elizabeth Warren, chairwoman of the Congressional Oversight Panel on TARP, takes her seat to testify before the House Budget Committee on Capitol Hill on June 9, 2009.

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Kai Ryssdal: Recall though that back in October then-Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson met with the CEOs of nine of this country's biggest banks. He told them in no uncertain terms that they had to take the TARP money to save the whole financial system. So they did. Only to learn later that the money came with strings attached.

So the race has been on to give that bailout back. Today 10 big banks got permission to do that. Almost two dozen smaller ones have already. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, who was in the room with Paulson and the CEO's back in October, today called those repayments an encouraging sign of financial repair. Our Washington bureau chief John Dimsdale reports.


JOHN DIMSDALE: Over the past seven months, the 10 banks paid the government nearly $2 billion in dividends and interest to borrow Treasury's money. President Barack Obama says that means so far the Troubled Asset Relief Program is turning a profit.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: We're restoring funds to the Treasury where they'll be available to safeguard against continuing risks to financial stability.

But William Isaac at the financial consulting firm LECG Global says the banks that are returning the TARP money never needed it, and it didn't do them any good.

WILLIAM ISAAC: Except cause them a lot of consternation. And to be dragged through public stress tests and be criticized for sponsoring golf tournaments that they've sponsored for years and other such things. It really has been a lot more harmful for those banks than helpful.

The banks that got permission to payback the bailout performed well on those government-run stress tests. But the Congressional overseer of the bailout, Elizabeth Warren, today questioned whether the stress tests were stressful enough. For example, she said, the tests assumed an 8.9-percent unemployment rate. And last month, unemployment was 9.4 percent.

ELIZABETH WARREN: This is a real concern. That the worst case scenario right here in 2009 is in fact not the worst case. We're going to see worse numbers than that.

At a separate Congressional hearing, Treasury Secretary Geithner said the tests imposed other, more rigorous standards, similar to conditions during the Great Depression. He said the tests, and the TARP money helped improve consumer confidence in banks.

In Washington, I'm John Dimsdale for Marketplace.

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ed pipkin - Jul 1, 2009

What happens with the money once it is paid back?
1) use it to make the huge number smaller? i.e. reduce the debt
2) keep it in reserve for other economic problem areas
3) spend it on something else and keep the debt?

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Curtis Holder - Jun 10, 2009

By the financial institutions accepting the TARP funds the economy was stalled on its path to recovery, simply due to the fact that with the TARP funds came more restrictions on the institutions everyday business and lending. By Treasury forcing these banks to take the TARP funds, banks had to begin lending the funds out at a higher interest rate because the interest rate that came with the TARP funds is 5%. This is what introduced the TALF program to get banks lending again, the TARP didn't work.

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Chris Carle - Jun 10, 2009

John - you must have skipped the article. Most of the banks that just repaid the TARP (JPM, Goldman, BoNY) DIDN'T NEED TARP money in the first place. Paulson essentially forced them to take it in his role as indirect regulator. Once they saw that this was a backdoor way for the Govt to control the way they did business, not surprisingly, they felt betrayed and wanted out.

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Richard Cole - Jun 9, 2009

Bloomberg News reported (Detroit Free Press, May 31) that Sec. Geithner was selling warrents issued by the in return for TARP money back to them at a steep discount. According to the article the taxpayer stands to lose up to $10 billion compared to what they wuld be woth if held for a while longer.

How about a report on the warents, and on whether the TARP funds are being paid back in full, or at a discount?

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John Herron - Jun 9, 2009

I don't want the comments by Mr Issacs to go unchallenged. The TARP money was not designed to make the banks happy or to allow them to keep excessive executive pay. It was for the rest of us. We needed the banking system safe so the entire financial system wouldn't collapse. The banks, and other financial institutions needed to be reined in from their excess and to get risk taking and reward back together. Banks should be glad the government stepped in to save them from themselves.