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Foreclosure has huge impact on seniors

A foreclosure sign in front of a house for sale in Stockton, Calif.

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TESS VIGELAND: When you think of homeowners facing foreclosure, what's the picture in your head? Young homebuyers, maybe first-timers who got mortgages they could neither understand nor afford.

Well a recent study by the AARP found there's no age limit attached to losing your home. In fact, nearly a third of all Americans who are in or near foreclosure are 50 or older. The threat of losing your home at any point is tough, but the older you get the worse it can be.

Krissy Clark of American Radioworks has our story.


Jim Beltran: Hello, Hi. Where are you going?

Customer: Hilton.

Jim Beltran is stocky guy with a perfectly bald head and a big, warm smile. He smiles a lot. Even in the middle of a slow day at work.

Jim is a shuttle bus driver, he ferries tourists...

Jim lifting luggage: Oh god.

...and their luggage...

Jim: Some of them don't know how to pack.

...to their hotels up and down the Las Vegas strip. But there are fewer people on the Strip these days, fewer people on Jim's buses and he's making less money.

Jim: This is the Venetian! Venetian!

Jim is 76. He has a heart condition. And frankly, he thought he'd be retired by now.

Jim: And the only reason why I still drive and pull myself up in the morning is, if they're to ask me, "Do you have a job?" I'm able to say yes.

They is Jim 's mortgage company, Countrywide. He wants to look good for them so they'll consider modifying the terms of his home loan. It's one of those adjustable rate deals, and the payments just jumped from $1,700 to $2,000 a month. Jim can't afford it. So he's trying to get the bank to reduce his payments. But unless he's employed, he won't qualify for help.

Jim's not the only 70-something who's found himself in a sticky housing situation like this. In fact, seniors as a whole have taken on more housing debt in the last decade than in earlier generations.

Dean Baker: These are people at an age where you would expect them to have largely paid off their house and in many cases, they're very far from it.

Dean Baker runs the Center for Economic Policy Research in Washington D.C.

Baker: Older Americans acted pretty much like everyone else did. They assumed that the run-up that the housing bubble would persist, so they either didn't put as much money into their homes as they might've otherwise or in many cases, they actually took money out of their homes, because they saw their prices rising, 10, 15, 20 percent a year.

That's exactly what Jim Beltran did: Cashed out some of his home equity to pay off credit-card bills and do some landscaping. He planned to refinance before his monthly payments jumped up, but that wasn't an option once the real-estate market collapsed. Now he and his wife, Ruth Marie, owe more on their house than its worth.

They've drained their retirement savings trying to keep up with the payments. And the house that was supposed to support them in retirement, is more like a ball and chain around their necks.

Ruth Marie: We'll just go down the stairs here.

Still, Jim Beltran and Ruth Marie love their ball and chain. It's a small three-bedroom house in the suburbs of Las Vegas.

Ruth Marie: Our patio is out that door there.

The place has high ceilings and lots of windows.

Ruth Marie: So bright and light.

Jim: And we love the house

Ruth Marie: And it's such a joy to wake up in the morning and come in to a nice bright living room. I never get used to it, doesn't get boring

It's not just the house that the Beltrans love, it's what it represents. They bought this place 10 years ago, after a long climb out of near poverty. Jim had a janitorial business that failed in the last recession; Ruth Marie got colon cancer. They fell deep into debt.

Beltran: Honey what were we eating?

Ruth Marie: Top ramen and hot dogs.

Beltran: Top ramen and hot dogs and renting apartments.

But they found a way to start over. Got new jobs, saved money and eventually bought this house.

Now that they can't afford it, they're trying to figure out what to do next.

Dean Baker: Well you don't have a lot of options at that point in your life.

Here is economist Dean Baker again.

Baker: Some of them are fortunate enough to be in good health, but even if they are, it's not easy for them certainly to find a good paying job. You know, a lot of us may still be able to turn to parents and borrow some money, well, odds are if you're in your late 60s, 70s, you don't have parents you can turn to.

These days a lot of younger folks in their situation are just walking away from their homes. But that doesn't seem right to Jim and Ruth Marie.

Ruth Marie: It's really foreign when you've been raised to pay what you owe. You make the bill you pay it.

Jim: Within 20 years, I'll be old and feeble or maybe I'll be dead. So at least I'm able to enjoy myself having my own home, right honey?

Ruth Marie: I think so.

Jim worries that if he and his wife go into foreclosure at their age, they'll never own a home. Still, giving the house back to the bank might be their only option. The Beltrans just found out that they've been turned down for a loan modification, because of some missing paperwork. They're refiling, but while they wait for an answer, Jim's rethinking foreclosure as a money saving tool.

Since there's such a backlog of foreclosures in Las Vegas, banks can take more than a year to evict homeowners. In the mean time, the Beltrans can live for free in their house.

Jim: So by the time they tell us to get out of here, we'd have saved close to $20,000. We'll find a rental and just live on our retirement.

Not exactly the retirement plan he'd been expecting, but in this economy, that's to be expected.

In Las Vegas, I'm Krissy Clark for Marketplace Money.

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stephen sugarman - Aug 16, 2009

Chris: re your idea of allowing or commanding Fanny May to ignore any foreclosure on a credit history so that an individual or couple can buy another home: great idea for those who have lost their homes already -assuming they have the money –
In the event that you are losing or have lost your home -Quite frankly I am not sure how this idea helps those who want to hold onto and stay in their homes event it is a "Financial ball and chain' or for people like me who never tapped the equity in my house and I am always close to foreclosure because I simply don’t earn enough to meet my $1100 dollar mortgage.

The real crux of the problem is the Banks and Mortgage Management companies have no real incentive to stop the foreclosure process and deal with home owners to lower principle and lower payments. You did say that.

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Steve Sugarman - Aug 16, 2009

Chris: re your idea of allowing or commanding Fanny May to ignore any foreclosure on a credit history so that an individual or couple can buy another home: great idea for those who have lost their homes already -assuming they have the money –
In the event that you are losing or have lost your home -Quite frankly I am not sure how this idea helps those who want to hold onto and stay in their homes event it is a "Financial ball and chain' or for people like me who never tapped the equity in my house and I am always close to foreclosure because I simply don’t earn enough to meet my 1100 dollar mortgage.

The real crux of the problem is the Banks and Mortgage Management companies have no real incentive to stop the foreclosure process and deal with home owners to lower principle and lower payments-You did say that -

1) Mortgage companies make big dollars on a foreclosure. We need to hear more about that.

2) Banks really don't give dam-they get that property back and yes it will be liability for a while but they will be able to resell that property and tap new income from that property. Under the current way that equity or refinanced loans are made there is every reason to believe that banks want and expect to get the property if you default –that’s the agreement! That’s the deal!

3) I’d like to know the average number of years home owners pay on their homes just prior to foreclosure. I think those numbers would be reveling – even if they refinanced and added debt to the home. I really believe that a refinance should not qualify a lender to foreclose ever!!! Then the lender will take much closer look at who they loan money too and for what purpose- The lender only gets a lean on the property for the amount-but no right of foreclosure-that’s putting at least half of the responsibility in the lap of the lender. At the very least the lender gets paid out of the estate or sale of the house what ever comes first. Then both lender and home owner in for the longevity –eliminating all of the speculation ….

4) I've been in my home for since 1990 .with one stream line and I went to 15 years thinking my payments would stay at about $750/mo. Well Property taxes and insurance rates skyrocketed and we are now at almost 1200/mo. In Minneapolis a women by the name of Rosemary Williams, 60, was foreclosed and evicted from her home of 50 years. She had a $1200 ARM which ballooned from $1200 -$2200 a month. Is she the only one to blame for this financial debacle? N0 the lender has culpability here.

5) So she is losing her home which was paid for once to GMAC -ultimately Lehman Bros.owns the paper. After the Sheriff left she was moved back into her home( and it is hers) by activists neighbors who are sitting with her. It was the right thing to do and the only option left –civil disobedience.

Where is the bail out for citizens???? Why are we not seeing a program that puts power in the hands of individual citizens? Why is a roof over your head not a human right?

Why are those who brought the country to this point still running the economy???

Your advice today really was not helpful or hopeful -You really did not address this problem head on and you of all people should be really be discussing and promoting real solutions for the American Population. You have the pulpit.

All I see is a massive land grab by banks and mortgage holders to bank roll new wealth-

Just have to look back at the saving and loan scam -which paved the way for redevelopment of family farms, through sheriff sales, into 'mega corporate farming companies. Mean while, back at the ranch, the banks who offered these farmers endless credit bore no responsibility for their actions there was no over sight and here we are again.

So what's wrong with this picture?
Please… that's what you should address IN YOUR DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS -instead of coming up with 'NPR FINANCIAL SOUND BITES, platitudes, and comfortable ideas.

Please listen to Diane Buckshnis she asks the same questions how the hell did we get here -30 years later everyone is going down the toilet in a matter of a few months ?
'The Story'
Soul of a Scandal
http://thestory.org/special-features/bankers-brokers-and-bandits
Diane Buckshnis remembers another time when the economy suffered because of the decisions of financial leaders, regulators, and politicians: the 1980s Savings and Loan debacle. Diane was a government examiner when she got assigned to the case that would become the symbol of the S & L scandal - the Keating case. Diane talks with host Dick Gordon about what she learned working on the infamous Keating case and what she thinks about today's financial meltdown.

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Stephen Sugarman - Aug 16, 2009

Really this was not revealing nor did you present this problem in any realistic way and you did not address the real underlying problems that Americans are facing. You have the pulpit. You have the air waves why don't you speak the plain truth - this is not just some personal financial dilemma that you can apply personal finance too. This is a foreclosure wild fire an epidemic. From the stand point of the American people we have been screwed. Just look at 1980 Savings and Loan debacle. Why are we hear. Where is our government when we need them. Nice show but empty

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John Witte - Aug 14, 2009

STOP with the sound bites and JUST tell the story! Get rid of your DAR Krissy!