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The cool cult of Apple

Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple

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Makeshift memorial shrine for Steve Jobs.

Kai Ryssdal: There's a book on the bookshelf in my office called "The Cult of Mac." It's leftover from the guy who had the office before me, but it's not a bad start to our coverage of Steve Jobs today.

"Cult" is kind of a strong word, but it's not far off the mark. You don't hear the kinds of things being said about Apple and Steve Jobs today being said about Dell or Nike. Nobody's going to be leaving flowers and candles outside a Verizon store anytime soon.

But long before Steve Jobs ever got sick, people -- and you know who you are -- were calling themselves 'Mac people.'

Marketplace's Stacey Vanek Smith explores how Jobs and Apple managed to make personal computers so personal.


Stacey Vanek Smith: Outside of the Apple Store in Soho, Colin Bartlett adds a red apple and a letter to a growing shrine of flowers and candles. Bartlett has two iPhones, an iPad and two MacBooks. He says part of why he's been so moved by Steve Jobs' death is his experience with these products.

Colin Bartlett: I think it's that empathy, that feeling you get when you use it. It makes you feel like the company that built it cares about you.

Making people feel like it cares is exactly why Apple is Apple, says Jen Drexler, a brand analyst at Just Ask a Woman.

Jen Drexler: You joined it. It's like enrolling in college and wearing the sweatshirt. You joined this brand the second you became hooked on one of the products.

Part of it is the cool factor. Drexler says instead of focusing on selling to businesses and targeting the cubicle culture, Mac aimed its products at musicians, filmmakers and visual artists.

Drexler: And then everyone else who has one can feel a little bit of that too. I can tell you I've never done anything creative with mine ever, but I would like to believe people think I do.

And once you buy in to that perception, it's hard to get out. Apple's products have never played very well with others. PC documents won't open on your Mac; your iTunes songs wont load onto your Android phone. All of which creates an aura of superiority, says consumer behavior consultant Britt Beemer.

Britt Beemer: Part of that non-compatibility was kind of a snob appeal Apple also created for its customers.

Beemer points out Apple products also quickly become incompatible with themselves. For instance, if you buy a new iPhone, it won't work with your 4-year-old MacBook Pro. And when you finally break down and buy a new laptop, you will discover it no longer syncs up with your old iPod. At least that's what I hear.

Beemer says this cycle, vicious though it feels, is exactly what Apple's consumers thrive on. The short life span makes Apple products synonymous with what's new and what's cool. Which kind of makes you cool.

Beemer: People discarded an Apple product to get the new Apple product. If you have an Apple product, you always have the latest technology.

Beemer did a series of consumer studies for Steve Jobs back in the '80s. He says even back then, Jobs wanted people to get emotionally attached to their machines.

Beemer: He one time told me, he said, 'Britt, the day people put their wedding pictures in their computer is the day I know we've won.'

In New York, I'm Stacey Vanek Smith for Marketplace.


EDITOR'S NOTE: The above piece on the personal appeal of Apple products overstated the severity of compatibility issues with other operating systems and devices, and among Apple products. To hear a follow-up conversation between Kai Ryssdal and John Moe, host of the Marketplace Tech Report, listen to Marketplace today, Oct. 7.

About the author

Stacey Vanek Smith is a senior reporter for Marketplace, where she covers banking, consumer finance, housing and advertising.

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Noah Sheldon's picture
Noah Sheldon - Oct 10, 2011

Stacy - this is a hack job of a piece. I expect more from you guys. The numerous inaccuracies in this piece equate to irresponsible reporting. Very disappointing to hear on one of my favorite shows.

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Marcella Burks - Oct 10, 2011

How disappointing. What a misinformation send off. What I truly love about my Apple products is that the very first IPod I purchased now large and ungainly still works perfectly well and is compatible with my new iMac.

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David Randall - Oct 8, 2011

"At least that's what I hear."

Since when is that the standard for putting things on the air?

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Mark Hill - Oct 8, 2011

As a former Apple employee who started on the Mac journey in 1983, I just had to protest this story. Britt Beemer didn't do you guys any favors. All of Beemer's observations were lifted from the anti-Mac propaganda of the 80's and 90's. Microsoft and IBM were directly responsible for a lot of that misinformation, and the business press was too stupid to see through it.

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J. Gehrer - Oct 7, 2011

It's hard to imagine Marketplace marginalizing any other large, popular company the way it habitually does with Apple.
Customers continually vote with their feet for this company's high performing products, yet when this is reflected in the company's financial results, it's treated as an easily-dismissed aberration that only occurs because Apple's customers were fooled or are in a 'cult'. This gives Marketplace license to ignore Apple's success, ridicule its tens of millions of customers, and spread  poisonous, tired old misinformation from twenty years ago. And as if that weren't enough, Marketplace picks the day of its highly-esteemed founder's passing to trumpet this drivel.

If Marketplace's reporting is this biased and distorted with the first or second most-valued company in the country, one must conclude that this cannot be the only instance of gross incompetence or slander.

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Mdm Belle - Oct 7, 2011

Lazy reporting Stacey no pass for saying from what I have heard.

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Kim Guerrette - Oct 7, 2011

What Bill McAuliff said. Love the show, but as someone who uses Windows, Mac OS X, and various versions of Linux on a daily basis, document compatibility is a thing of the past.

You guys can and should do better than this.

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Bill McAuliff - Oct 7, 2011

Sadly, I must add my disappointment to the growing list of listeners and readers. When I heard this story on the radio last night, I felt I had to write to you and make you aware of the lack of editing and fact checking in this story.

Quote: Part of it is the cool factor. Drexler says instead of focusing on selling to businesses and targeting the cubicle culture, Mac aimed its products at musicians, filmmakers and visual artists.

Mac is a product (Macintosh, MacBook, etc...) Apple is the company.

Re: obsolescence & incompatibilities - up until earlier this year, I used a 2001 PowerBook laptop that synced just fine with my iPhone 3G; it was only when I upgraded the iPhone to iOS 4 that I needed to wrest my original 2006 MacBook from my son in order to run a newer version of iTunes to manage my iPhone synchronization.

I have used Macs since 1994. Early on, there were issues of document and application incompatibilities between Windows and Macintosh OS's. I can honestly say it has been at least ten years since I have had an issue creating, opening, or saving a file that was created on one platform and transferred to the other. Microsoft Office, Adobe Photoshop, and many other programs have long been available on both platforms.

I am a huge fan of Marketplace & Marketplace Money. I look forward to listening to your show on my ride home from work each day. I would ask that you revisit the experts you consult, in any field, to make sure that they really do know what they are talking about. I am reminded of Rob Enderle (not sure if you have ever consulted him for a story) - this person is regularly consulted about Apple and computing subjects, yet if you Google "The MacAlope", you'll see he is rarely right about anything. http://www.macalope.com/?s=enderle&x=0&y=0

C'mon Marketplace, you can do better than this.

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Dean Lee - Oct 7, 2011

I'd like to add to the comments above my shock at hearing someone claim that "Apple's products have never played very well with others". Absolutely incorrect. In the early days, every platform was different. Apple, PC, Atari, TRS-80, and not interchangeable. But Mac, by far, has been the one to make strides in changing that. They made their floppy drives able to read PC-formatted disks. PC would never read Mac disks. Mac people built the software to convert files from PC-Mac and back ("File Convertor"), where PC never bothered. Macs changed their peripherals to be able to use PC-type peripherals(video connectors) and Apple itself began bundling the drivers for these peripherals into its system. Macs were the ones to build in the ability to function on early PC networks- you could never get a PC to work on a Mac network. Mac built its new Intel machines with the ability to boot with Windows. PCs have never run a Mac OS.

What part of "Apple doesn't play well with others" were you referring to?

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James Cradock - Oct 7, 2011

"Apple products also quickly become incompatible with themselves" is false. If anything Apple's products last longer and are more durable than comparable products. I'm using a 5 year-old MacBook Pro with an iPhone 4, and it works. In my 20+ years using Apple's products, and being in the IT business and using Apple products to build things, I've found that the company's products are built to last.

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